r/CFB Penn State β€’ Rose Bowl Dec 01 '22 Silver 2 Wholesome 2 All-Seeing Upvote 1 Take My Energy 1 Narwhal Salute 1 Take My Power 1 Cake 1

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https://twitter.com/CFBPlayoff/status/1598347965143420931?t=aZ2w21mEDbXCqyCIEwtA8g&s=09
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u/btr5017 Penn State β€’ Florida Dec 01 '22

The first round of the playoff in 2024 will take place the week ending Saturday, December 21, at either the home field of the higher-seeded team or at another site designated by the higher-seeded institution. (No. 12 at No. 5, No. 11 at No. 6, No. 10 at No. 7, and No. 9 at No. 8.) The specific game dates, likely late in that week, will be announced later.

This sounds like it could mean non-Saturday games that week.

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u/thecameron26 UCF β€’ Big 12 Dec 01 '22

ESPN could want a primetime Friday night game

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u/LBramit13 Alabama β€’ Arizona State Dec 01 '22

As long as we don’t end up with games on Thursday 1pm when most everyone is at work

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u/zachpledger Alabama β€’ Arkansas Dec 01 '22

Could I offer you Monday at 8pm?

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u/mockg Nebraska β€’ Oklahoma Dec 01 '22

Only if you can promise me 60+ minutes of commercials.

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u/BigWillis93 Dec 01 '22

Its a 3 hour advert with some action in between, you'll be good!

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u/mockg Nebraska β€’ Oklahoma Dec 01 '22

That's unfortunate I hate it when that boring football interrupts my commercials. My favorite moment is when a team scores so I can see more commercials.

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u/timbsm2 Georgia β€’ College Football Playoff Dec 01 '22

Better start at 9pm just to be safe.

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u/phoam_born Delaware β€’ Temple Dec 01 '22

I’m guessing that means they’ll just throw one on Friday night just so they don’t have to cram 4 of them in one day Saturday

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u/chuckthetruck64 Louisville β€’ Oklahoma Dec 01 '22

I wouldn't be shocked by a Thursday, Friday, 2x Saturday type schedule. There is enough time between the first and second rounds that an extra day or two won't really matter for anyone.

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u/phoam_born Delaware β€’ Temple Dec 01 '22

I have a feeling they won’t try Thursday since they’d have to compete with the NFL (although I guess they’ll have to compete with the NFL on Saturday anyway since they usually schedule games then). Either way, I’d much prefer the bulk of the games to fall on Saturday

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u/elonsusk69420 Georgia β€’ Corndog Dec 01 '22

I doubt Thursday, not because of the NFL, but because of fans in the stands. Friday night makes it a weekend affair. Saturday is easy. Thursday night means (probably) taking off Thursday and Friday, unless you live really close.

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u/d0ngl0rd69 Georgia Bandwagon β€’ Florida State Dec 01 '22

Could be a way to give higher seeds an advantage. I.e. if 5 & 6 play a day or two earlier, it would give them more time for recovery/planning than 7 & 8 (assuming chalk wins out).

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u/pokeyeet Michigan Dec 01 '22

Cant wait to have playoff games on campus DURING finals :) wont be distracting at all!

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u/The_Reelest Georgia Dec 01 '22

With how much money is involved with this, academics don’t matter.

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u/cyanocittaetprocyon Michigan β€’ The Game Dec 01 '22

academics don’t matter.

As if it ever did.

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u/timtot23 Ohio β€’ Ohio State Dec 01 '22

I'm most interested in this part: "home field of the higher-seeded team or at another site designated by the higher-seeded institution"

How does this work? Like, OSU just says they don't want to play in the snow so they work out a last minute agreement to play the game indoors in Indianapolis instead? I thought booking stadiums was difficult and you need to plan ahead. This seems like a weird situation. And it becomes a point of strategy also. If you have a run heavy team they will most certainly love the idea of playing in the cold/snow. Can they pick ANY stadium? Michigan decides they want to play in buffalo at the Bills stadium.

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u/adjust_your_set Oklahoma State β€’ Hateful 8 Dec 01 '22

I’m guessing that could be for teams like TCU. Sure they can have it at their home field but, you know, 80,000 seat indoor Jerry World is just right there.

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u/Matt_WVU West Virginia β€’ Appalachi… Dec 01 '22

Just in time for WVU to not be a top 15 team for the next decade

Neat πŸ“Έ

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u/Matt_WVU West Virginia β€’ Appalachi… Dec 01 '22

We are actually a basketball school now, thanks for reminding me

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u/FuhrerGirthWorm West Virginia β€’ Marshall Dec 01 '22

Always have been

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u/Steelerboy43 Michigan β€’ The Game Dec 01 '22

Expanded playoffs and USC/UCLA joining the B1G in the same year. Gonna be wild lol

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u/BIG_DICK_WHITT Utah β€’ Rose Bowl Dec 01 '22

Ironically, expanded playoffs with a Pac-12 autobid might be the reason why the conference survives.

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u/pinniped1 Illinois β€’ Cornell Dec 01 '22

Those autobids are a great reason for the Pac and Big XII to remain separate entities.

Everybody out West has a clearer path into the tournament, and really the Elite Eight, than anybody in the B1G or SEC who isn't Bama Georgia Michigan OSU.

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u/eddie_the_zombie Navy Dec 01 '22

Then, bring on salty #13!

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u/GoldenBananas21 Missouri Dec 01 '22

It’s going to be a Hugh Freeze-led Auburn team and he’s going to create a media shitstorm and no one is going to care

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u/velociraptorfarmer Iowa State β€’ Minnesota State Dec 01 '22

#13 is going to be some school that dropped 3 games and finished 3rd in their division, at best.

Nobody is going to feel bad for a second.

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u/elonsusk69420 Georgia β€’ Corndog Dec 01 '22

< checks SEC East standings >

BEAMERBALL!!!

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u/Penis_Wanker Georgia β€’ Georgia Bandwagon Dec 01 '22

This swag just won't quit.

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u/Ima_pray_4_u Alabama β€’ College Football Playoff Dec 01 '22

Even as a Bama fan, I envy their unrelenting excitement

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u/Penis_Wanker Georgia β€’ Georgia Bandwagon Dec 01 '22

They are in a perfect position to upset anyone and are an 8 win team. What's not to love?

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u/Totes_Not_an_NSA_guy Hateful 8 β€’ Utah State Dec 01 '22

The odds that the #13 school is actually the best is WAY lower than the chance that the #5 school might actually be the best

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u/Brendinooo Pittsburgh β€’ Big East Dec 01 '22

I will have no sympathy for anyone who says that FSU deserves a shot at Georgia

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u/ScotTheDuck Ohio State β€’ UNLV Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

Yeah, 13 has a much more tenuous case for a trip than 5 does now. Most teams that get into the teens have three losses and didn't win their division. To use a basketball comparison, it's the difference between the first team out and the three seeds in the NIT.

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u/Vavent Minnesota β€’ Paul Bunyan's Axe Dec 01 '22

If Kansas State and Utah lose their championship games, FSU actually possibly would be in the top 11 this year (with Tulane or UCF getting in as the 12th).

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u/PRMan99 USC Dec 01 '22

In my rundown of this in the CFP era, only one year would a 3-loss team have made it into the playoffs and that's only because there weren't enough 2-loss teams.

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u/RealignmentJunkie Northwestern β€’ Wisconsin Dec 01 '22

Is there a pac autobid or just one for top 6?

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u/Capital_Program_3643 South Dakota State β€’ Nebraska Dec 01 '22

Pretty sure it’s the top 6 conference champions, but all five P5 champions will get in most often, 2020 was the only exception.

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u/blfmtnranger85 Ohio State β€’ Tennessee Dec 01 '22

This is correct. Top 6 conference champs get auto bids. Top 4 get byes.

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u/jonstark19 Nebraska β€’ Northern Iowa Dec 01 '22

Does this make it more likely or less likely that the PAC 12 expands back to 12? They could just stand pat and play a 9 game round robin, like the current Big 12. But I could also see adding a few programs to bolster the numbers back to 12.

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u/sdf_cardinal Louisville β€’ Washington Dec 01 '22

The conventional wisdom is that San Diego is waiting in the wings, to pick up that market…. Not sure there is a clear candidate after that though people like to mention Boise St, Fresno, and UNLV. But those all fell meh to me.

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u/pm_me_cute_sloths_ Iowa State β€’ Clemson Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

gonna be overshadowed by a Tom Manning led Iowa State offense leading ISU to a 16-0 season while scoring only 32 points

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u/BeraldGevins Oklahoma State β€’ … Dec 01 '22

16-0 while averaging 2 points a game would indeed be wild

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u/IndyDude11 Texas β€’ Indiana Dec 01 '22

Whatever works

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u/funnymeme2112 Ohio State Dec 01 '22

i really wish the LA schools and OUT would stay in their respective conferences for this era of the CFP. Pac-12 adds two extra teams to boost up to 14 and we got all the P5 conferences on a level playing field.

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u/the_Formuoli_ Wisconsin β€’ Sickos Dec 01 '22

The problem with that is how β€œlevel” is the playing field really when the big ten and SEC are way out earning the other conferences with their TV contracts?

That’s pretty much the whole reason USC and UCLA are coming. They stand to make way more money

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u/dkviper11 Penn State β€’ Rose Bowl Dec 01 '22

The first round of the playoff in 2024 will take place the week ending Saturday, December 21, at either the home field of the higher-seeded team or at another site designated by the higher-seeded institution.Β 

This is all I wanted in the world.

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u/The_Outcast4 Oregon State β€’ Baylor Dec 01 '22

another site designated by the higher-seeded institution

Designate Barrow, Alaska as the site for a playoff game!!

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u/Dlehm21 Vermont β€’ Penn State Dec 01 '22

Can a school get crazy with this β€œdesignated site” ? Put that feature in NCAA β€˜25.

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u/Free_Joty Dec 01 '22

CFP- Qatar 2025

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u/WagTheKat Nebraska β€’ Verified Media Dec 01 '22

Can you imagine the shitshow when Wisconsin and FSU show up and are informed no alcohol is allowed under penalty of death?

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u/hascogrande Notre Dame β€’ ECU Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

Al-Jazeera: BREAKING NEWS! After heavy fighting, the Seminole-Badger coalition has toppled the Al Thani regime. Brewing is set to begin within the week

The slogan of our new regime is: OHHHHHHHH Jump Around

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u/yumyumapollo Florida State β€’ Cheez-It Bowl Dec 01 '22

Inshallah.

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u/Thurston3rd Florida State β€’ Georgia Dec 01 '22

Brewing? Gotta distill that shine baby.

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u/CivilFisher Nebraska Dec 01 '22

Distillation started on the plane ride there. Brewing takes longer to set up

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u/dimmyfarm Santa Monica β€’ Sickos Dec 01 '22

Arizona and ASU will come uninvited just to help the cause.

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u/WagTheKat Nebraska β€’ Verified Media Dec 01 '22

Jeezuz, that got a real chuckle from me.

I mean, it is not impossible. Improbable yes, but not impossible.

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u/ScotTheDuck Ohio State β€’ UNLV Dec 01 '22

The darkest day in Wisconsin history since that time they had to play BYU in Provo.

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u/sarlacc98 BYU β€’ Arizona State Dec 01 '22

They literally drank a bar in Provo dry lmao

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u/Lirvan Michigan β€’ Western Michigan Dec 01 '22

Wisconsin drank bars dry in London, of all places, too. Due to the packers having a game in London.

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u/sloppyjo12 Wisconsin β€’ Sickos Dec 01 '22

Worth it

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u/NighthawkRandNum Keg of Nails β€’ /r/CFB Bug Finder Dec 01 '22

I mean, I can't see a school with a small stadium doing anything other thank picking the closest available NFL stadium or CFB stadium with 60k+ capacity. If nothing else you want to keep a home-fan advantage insofar as possible if you're playing not at home.

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u/IndyDude11 Texas β€’ Indiana Dec 01 '22

We want our game on Mars!

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u/eddie_the_zombie Navy Dec 01 '22

Time to bring Bama to Lambeau!

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u/mitchdwx Penn State β€’ Bowling Green Dec 01 '22

I love everything about this. The atmosphere on campus is going to be wild. Plus there’s a chance that an SEC team could travel up north to play a Big Ten team in the snow. That would be mandatory viewing for all CFB fans.

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u/connor_wa15h Notre Dame Dec 01 '22

We want Bama. At home. Will settle for LSU.

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u/FSUnoles77 Florida State β€’ Texas State Dec 01 '22

I'm picturing all the snowball fights between players who've never seen snow before, lol.

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u/rikkirikkiparmparm Wisconsin Dec 01 '22

I remember seeing a video when the Jacksonville Jaguars were in the playoffs and it was cold enough to see the players' breath, because Blake Bortles was entertaining himself with it while sitting on the sidelines

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u/the_snooze Virginia β€’ Sickos Dec 01 '22

With the current rankings, lil ol' Clemson would be playing in Happy Valley in December. πŸ‘€

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u/w6750 Texas Dec 01 '22

Won’t a lot of people be off campus already for holidays?

Will this keep students on campus after classes end for the semester?

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u/JohnDavidBootyStan Dec 01 '22

Students who live off-campus (upper classmen)? Yes. But, for example, Ohio State ends the fall semester in 2024 around the 15th of December. Will the campus keep dorms open for those students until the game? Unlikely.

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u/LeanersGG UCLA β€’ Big Ten Dec 01 '22

I want a list of all the P5 programs where it might make sense to designate a site.

The best example I can think of is Wazzu playing at Lumen (sorry, Coug bros).

It’s a much bigger stadium (72k vs 33k), with far more luxury/VIP offerings. And it’s a game that’ll be played on school break, so Western Washington may actually be easier for students/fans to access.

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u/Valuable_Trip Dec 01 '22

Just please for the love of God have these games be in college football stadiums as much as possible.

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u/cvsprinter1 SMU β€’ Oregon State Dec 01 '22

We will play in the gymnasium and you will like it!

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u/krisspy451 Oklahoma β€’ Big 12 Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 02 '22

I would like to not go to the SEC please.

Edit: This is now my highest comment ever and 3/5 top are r/CFB threads. Love yall.

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u/hells_cowbells Egg Bowl β€’ Mississippi State Dec 01 '22

I would also like to not be in the SEC.

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u/Mr_Otters Virginia β€’ Wake Forest Dec 01 '22

Mississippi State to Big 12 when?

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u/hells_cowbells Egg Bowl β€’ Mississippi State Dec 01 '22

I could deal with that. Leach might give some of the older fans bad flashbacks, though.

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u/sixmilesoldier Appalachian State β€’ Georgia Dec 01 '22

Texas Tech game would be nuts

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u/jrp162 Mississippi State β€’ Kentucky Dec 01 '22

don't worry, just like the last time the playoffs expanded, we'll be in position to make it in in 2024 only to fall just outside in the last two weeks of the season.

#HAILSTATE

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u/d0ngl0rd69 Georgia Bandwagon β€’ Florida State Dec 01 '22

But think of all those quality losses you’ll rack up, those will keep you in contention

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u/elliott9_oward5 Texas A&M Dec 01 '22

Too bad, come here buddy. We have plenty of room down here at the bottom. Over there with the calculator is Vanderbilt, and the one sniffing glue is Auburn. Make yourself at home with us in the bottom 4.

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u/PrimalCookie Florida Dec 01 '22

Sometimes a drunk guy in jorts might stop by. Don't bother him and he won't bother you.

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u/DrunkByDawn Paper Bag Dec 01 '22

Hey, it takes a lot of talent to sniff glue through this paper bag.

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u/INM8_2 Miami β€’ Transfer Portal Dec 01 '22

you put the glue under the bag so it gets trapped and you don't waste anything. fuckin amateur hour over here.

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u/DrunkByDawn Paper Bag Dec 01 '22

Why didn't I think of that? I should have went to a Miami fan for advice in drug use. I have a lot to learn.

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u/Boyhowdy107 Missouri β€’ Big 8 Dec 01 '22

We brought snacks to the party.

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u/H2theBurgh Pittsburgh β€’ The Alliance Dec 01 '22

2024 will be such a fascinating year with a new playoff, new Big Ten, and the new video game.

Completely new era for the sport

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u/MultiLevelMaoism Alabama β€’ Southern Miss Dec 01 '22

This is obviously a giant conspiracy to get two-loss Bama in every year.

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u/zachpledger Alabama β€’ Arkansas Dec 01 '22

My only problem with it is this:

If the SEC has 16 teams by that point, what 4 teams are gonna get left out of the playoff?

(Kidding, obviously. Would be stoked to be ranked #5 in the postseason to get that home game)

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u/Important-Ostrich-26 Kentucky β€’ Paper Bag Dec 01 '22

Bama and Georgia are almost guaranteed annual playoff appearances if they keep up their current level of success. And then throw in one or two of Florida, Tennessee, LSU, Texas, Oklahoma, TAMU each season. Occasionally we may see the next tier of Auburn, Arkansas, Kentucky, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, and South Carolina break in if they have really good seasons.

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u/sassyseconds Alabama β€’ SEC Dec 01 '22

I really think people will hate this. Bama (as long as we got saban), Georgia for the foreseeable future, osu, clemson... every single year. Basically forever.

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u/mtzehvor LSU β€’ NC State Dec 01 '22

Bama's made it into a four team playoff all but two years anyway. I'm ok with giving them the other two if it means breaking up the usual Georgia/Ohio State/Alabama/Clemson monotony.

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u/beefsaladsamich Nebraska Dec 01 '22

WHY IS THE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME ON A MONDAY!

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u/pm_me_cute_sloths_ Iowa State β€’ Clemson Dec 01 '22

because nothing says college football by competing viewership/headlines with the

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Presidential Inauguration

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u/bewildered_forks Penn State Dec 01 '22

To be fair, a Presidential Inauguration rarely ends in an upset

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u/ATXBeermaker Texas β€’ Stanford Dec 01 '22

That happens in the middle of the day, though.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '22

Inaugurate the president in the afternoon. College football at night.

Murica

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u/RaleighAccTax Michigan β€’ Northwood Dec 01 '22

Make it a quick halftime show

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u/KatetCadet Alabama Dec 01 '22

Are you fucking serious lol? Who the fuck decided this? What morons...

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u/GeorgieWashington Alabama β€’ Colorado Dec 01 '22

Trying to move the Presidential inauguration seems like a perfect task for Senator Pinewood Box. πŸ˜‚

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u/jpljr77 Georgia β€’ College Football Playoff Dec 01 '22

To be fair, the inauguration is held at noon by tradition. So it will be well over before the game gets going.

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u/the_Formuoli_ Wisconsin β€’ Sickos Dec 01 '22

It has to be bc NFL essentially monopolizes TV on saturdays and sundays during the playoffs right

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u/zachpledger Alabama β€’ Arkansas Dec 01 '22

Seeing ratings posts throughout the season, I think Alabama had 2-3 games over the 10mil(?) viewers mark. The Game had an absolutely MASSIVE number at like 17mil. Then seeing that an NFL game had something like 42mil that weekend, I finally understand why it's not worth trying to compete.

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u/the_Formuoli_ Wisconsin β€’ Sickos Dec 01 '22

Yep. NFL is King whether we like it or not, probably always will be for as long as football is a sport being played

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u/Darth_Miguel Nebraska Dec 01 '22

Seriously!!! I’ve hated this for so long. NCAA basketball final too.

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u/blfmtnranger85 Ohio State β€’ Tennessee Dec 01 '22

That one is almost always played super late too.

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u/castor--troy Oklahoma Dec 01 '22

This is what happens when Clemson and Alabama are left out.

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u/GimmeCatScratchFever Louisville β€’ Alabama Dec 01 '22

Don't forget Ohio state! Bias talk aside, a 12 team playoff this year would be fire. You have the below standard alabama team looking for redemption. Ohio state with an explosive offense and nothing to lose. A tough Utah team that could play spoiler.

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u/HallwayHomicide UCF β€’ Team Chaos Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

I agree with this. Opponents of expansion will say stuff like

"You're so sick of Alabama, Clemson, OSU, OU, Georgia in the playoffs. This will make sure they never miss it"

I don't really mind that those teams make it every year. What I don't like, is that the same 6 teams make up 75% or 100% of the bracket.

If those same 6 teams make it every year, but they only make up 50% of the bracket instead of 100%, then that's way more interesting.

Edit: for the curious, here's what the 2021 playoff would have been

1 Bama

2 Michigan

3 Cincy

4 Baylor

5 Georgia

6 Notre Dame

7 Ohio State

8 Ole Miss

9 Oklahoma State

10 Michigan State

11 Utah

12 Pitt

I'm not 100% sure that Utah and Pitt would be 11 and 12. They might get bumped up to 5 and 6 automatically because they were conference champs but I'm not sure what the rules are there

Either way.... That looks way more fun than what we did get.

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u/PretendThisIsMyName Clemson β€’ Texas A&M Dec 01 '22

Don’t quote me on this one because I read it here. But the combo of Bama/Clemson/OSU have made up 17/32 playoff spots. So expanding really is the move.

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u/HallwayHomicide UCF β€’ Team Chaos Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

If you add in Oklahoma/Georgia and Notre Dame I bet that percentage gets damn close to 75%

Edit: I looked up number of appearances

Bama 7

Clemson 6

OSU 4

Oklahoma 4

Georgia 2

Notre Dame 2

And then Washington, Oregon, LSU, Michigan, Michigan State, FSU and Cincinnati all have 1 appearance each.

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u/buttlickerface Appalachian State β€’ Alabama Dec 01 '22

Yep, 25/32 is 78%. 6 teams have 75% of playoff appearances.

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u/Muh_Nado Arizona State Dec 01 '22

Tight, the first year a G5 breaks some blueblood's kneecaps is gonna be lit. Bets on who?

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u/foreveracubone Michigan β€’ Sickos Dec 01 '22

Michigan gonna lose to App State in the natty in 2027

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u/laffy_man Utah Dec 01 '22

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u/StrudelB Michigan β€’ UMass Dec 01 '22

On second thought I don't think I want an expanded playoff anymore

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u/blfmtnranger85 Ohio State β€’ Tennessee Dec 01 '22

This for real though is something I am excited for. We actually have a shot at at seeing a G5 cinderella story now. Something the current format doesn't really provide.

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u/FightGlobalNorming Wisconsin β€’ Nebraska Dec 01 '22

A lot of people questioning a team choosing not their stadium to play, and really it's very simple. A playoff game for any team almost certainly will sell out, and the income from a 30,000 seat stadium to a 70,000+ seater just from ticket sales would be HUGE. Then add in concessions, parking, the money the city, restaurants and hotels would make... like with most questions in college football the answer is very simply money.

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u/NighthawkRandNum Keg of Nails β€’ /r/CFB Bug Finder Dec 01 '22

Especially if it's a local NFL stadium.

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u/SirHoneyDip Ohio State β€’ Cincinnati Dec 01 '22

I wonder if UC would potentially play at Paul Brown Stadium? 40k vs 65k

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u/ImanShumpertplus Ohio β€’ Miami Dec 01 '22

kinda want them to play at the Shoe just for maximum chaos

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u/bobo377 Alabama β€’ Marshall Dec 01 '22

At the Shoe in a year when OSU doesn’t qualify. Just a massive flex.

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u/panderingPenguin Ohio State Dec 01 '22

OSU's AD has been quite vocal about wanting to play at Lucas Oil (about 30% smaller than The Shoe) at least some of the time. For us at least, the theory is that bad weather could neutralize some of our advantages. But not playing on campus has been really unpopular with the fanbase, so Gene Smith walked it back somewhat. I still bet the 3rd party site is at least partly our doing though.

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u/NighthawkRandNum Keg of Nails β€’ /r/CFB Bug Finder Dec 01 '22

It's excellent to see that they're waiting until the weekend after Army/Navy to play the first round games. While it's unlikely that a service academy would earn a bid, at least they can fittingly keep their game on a day for themselves.

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u/Lt_Chocolate Ohio State β€’ Team Chaos Dec 01 '22

More high-level draft picks playing in more bowl games in (hopefully) unconventional matchups. I’m here for it.

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u/CTG0161 Ohio State β€’ Cincinnati Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

For anyone complaining, these are the following teams that would have been playoff teams with a 12 team playoff in the playoff era that have not made the 4 team playoff:

Mississippi State, Boise State, Arizona, Baylor, TCU, Ole Miss (2014),

Iowa, Stanford, UNC, Houston (2015),

Penn State, USC, Colorado, Wisconsin, Western Michigan (2016),

Auburn, Miami, UCF (2017),

Florida (2018),

Utah, Memphis (2019),

Texas A&M, Iowa State, Indiana, Coastal Carolina (2020),

Oklahoma State, Pitt (2021).

That brings the total of different playoff teams from the current 13 to 40 different teams have made the playoff. Which is 30% of the FBS, and from 12 P5 teams to 33 P5 teams, or 43% of the P5. Is that not better than 15% of the P5 or 10% of FBS ever contending?

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u/Super_mando1130 Ohio State β€’ Miami (OH) Dec 01 '22

This is such a clutch comment that is going to get overlooked. The playoffs are basically an invitational right now. With the 12 team expansion, these blue blood schools could drop a game to a upper mid tier school. Purdue beat tOSU in a regular season game. App State beat TTUN. Iowa was in a grind against an FCS school. Alabama lost to A&M. Will the blue bloods be the favorite more often than not? Sure but in the playoffs it’ll be back-back-back matchups that will be against upper-mid tier teams. A team that has to open up the full playbook in Rd1 now can be exposed in Rd2. These won’t be cupcakes, they’ll force teams to show their hand and allow the next team to take advantage of it. This is going to make for some ELECTRIC games

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u/Mattllly Sickos β€’ Auburn Dec 01 '22 Silver

Just in time for our next coaching search!

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u/zet191 Texas A&M Dec 01 '22

Are autobids included in this? Or is that a future decision.

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u/Billyxmac Oregon Dec 01 '22

Believe it's top six conference champions get auto bids. Top four get first round byes.

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u/bluebloodbutleftout Boise State Dec 01 '22

This mean a g5 autobid?

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u/ExternalTangents /r/CFB Poll Veteran β€’ Florida Dec 01 '22

It means there’s no special designation for P5 conference champs or G5 conference champs. They just take the 6 conference champions that are highest in the rankings, regardless of what conference they came from.

So since there are only 5 P5 conferences, there will always be at least one G5 conference champion, but there could be more if two G5 conference champs are ranked ahead of the lowest P5 conference champ.

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u/MAHOMES_10_TIME_MVP Texas Tech Dec 01 '22

Oh damn so this is actually spicy. So this means for example this year if Purdue won we'd see Tulane and UTSA get in? IDK how that would even work since UTSA isn't in the top 25 for cfp.

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u/ExternalTangents /r/CFB Poll Veteran β€’ Florida Dec 01 '22

If both were ranked ahead of Purdue, yes.

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u/ThankGodSecondChance UCF β€’ USA Dec 01 '22

Purdue would definitely jump into the top 25 with a win against Michigan

But yes, in general, yes.

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u/1977_Chevy_K10 LSU β€’ Idaho Dec 01 '22

Yeah that’s correct

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u/UtzTheCrabChip Maryland β€’ Johns Hopkins Dec 01 '22

I'm greatly bothered by tournaments that aren't powers of 2

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u/jpljr77 Georgia β€’ College Football Playoff Dec 01 '22

If anyone cares, here's how it would look this season, assuming the higher-rated teams win their conference championship games. This is going by current rankings and the "other two conference champions" clause.

  • 1 - UGA - SEC Champs
  • 2 - Michigan - B1G Champs
  • 3 - TCU - Big 12 Champs
  • 4 - USC - PAC 12 Champs
  • 5 - Ohio State - At-large
  • 6 - Alabama - At-large
  • 7 - Tennessee - At-large
  • 8 - Penn State - At-large
  • 9 - Clemson - ACC Champs
  • 10 - Washington - At-large
  • 11 - FSU - At-large
  • 12 - Tulane - AAC Champs

Utah and Kansas State would drop out due to losses in championship games. The only 3-loss team would be FSU (and it could be argued there would be jockeying for that last spot by Oregon, Oregon State, and UCLA).

So the first round matchups would be:

  • Tulane at Ohio State
  • FSU at Bama
  • Washington at Tennessee
  • Clemson at Penn State

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u/thejawa Florida State β€’ Air Force Dec 01 '22

Tulane beating Ohio State is what the world needs.

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u/easily_rekt Oregon Dec 01 '22

Why would any team choose to not play the game at home?

The first round of the playoff in 2024 will take place the week ending Saturday, December 21, at either the home field of the higher-seeded team or at another site designated by the higher-seeded institution.

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u/tdc1atlanta Georgia Dec 01 '22 Silver Wholesome

Round 1: Georgia vs Florida State....in the Swamp.

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u/florida4_life Florida β€’ West Florida Dec 01 '22

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u/Parlorshark Florida β€’ Harvard Dec 01 '22

But tickets are only sold to current UF students, faculty, and alumni.

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u/Call-of-Queerthulhu Mississippi State β€’ Egg Bowl Dec 01 '22

In a twist UCF gets priority access to tickets

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u/FasterThanFaast Florida Dec 01 '22

Honestly would be a fun time just booing the entire game

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u/The_Outcast4 Oregon State β€’ Baylor Dec 01 '22

I am not sure which group of people would hate that most. That sounds awful all around.

Which makes it perfect for college football!

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u/RonMexico13 Florida Dec 01 '22

I'm gonna vomit. By the end of the game, both teams will probably end up dry humping each other on our logo just to spite us.

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u/florida4_life Florida β€’ West Florida Dec 01 '22

An example would be a team like Tulane wanting to host a quarterfinal at the Superdome instead of Yulman because of seating capacity

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u/pm_me_cute_sloths_ Iowa State β€’ Clemson Dec 01 '22

Or if it’s predicted to be like -30Β° at say Minnesota in January.

Despite what people think, us northerners aren’t completely immune to those temperatures and would suffer too. There’s a point where it’s not an advantage lol

They would obviously just move to US Bank Stadium in that situation.

I’m sure there’s a threshold for too poor of weather, granted you’d be forecasting that a few weeks in advance.

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u/TinyBearsAreBad Dec 01 '22

This is of course assuming someone lifts the curse on the state of Minnesota that allows good things to happens to it's sports teams, like being the higher seed in a college football playoff game.

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u/Honestly_ rawr Dec 01 '22

For shame! That gave us the advantage against Honduras and don't you forget it!

https://twitter.com/TUDNUSA/status/1489025244547407873

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u/NolaBrass Tulane β€’ Fordham Dec 01 '22

I think we still would choose Yulman just so the Superdome wouldn’t be 70% opposing fans but the example makes sense with a normal school with a local fanbase

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u/wolverine237 Michigan β€’ Northwestern Dec 01 '22

I think you might still choose the Superdome so you could make bank off of ticket sales to whatever other team's fans though

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u/Btherock78 Alabama β€’ Sugar Bowl Dec 01 '22

More applicable example is probably Cincinnati picking Paul Brown over Nippert, they're only 4 miles apart and PBS seats 25,000 more people, or Houston picking NRG over TDECU (6 miles to gain 32,000 seats)

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u/WhiteW0lf13 Florida State β€’ UCF Dec 01 '22

We are all fucked when a randomly good even-year Northwestern gets in and chooses Europe as their host location

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u/the_Formuoli_ Wisconsin β€’ Sickos Dec 01 '22

As they say, Ireland's Big Ten Team

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u/EBuni Northern Iowa β€’ Team Chaos Dec 01 '22

So Georgia can play at Mercedes Benz Stadium and get paid

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u/CHR0T0 Ohio State Dec 01 '22

You mean to tell me that when Georgia plays a "neutral" site game there it isn't truly a neutral site!?

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u/kingmidget_91 Georgia β€’ Fort Valley State Dec 01 '22

I have no idea what you mean I believe Mercedez Benz stadium in Atlanta is the most neutral site for Georgia to play in, just don't look at my flairs

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u/dkviper11 Penn State β€’ Rose Bowl Dec 01 '22

I think it leaves consideration for a Big Ten team to play in Indianapolis, for example. At one point, Ohio State had been rumored to consider that, but like you referenced, a home game would generate so much more revenue.

Another item is like Beaver Stadium being horrendously outdated and needing to be winterized immediately following the last game. There have been games where the press box pipes froze up and there was no water. Obviously, something that needs to be fixed.

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u/wjackson42 Georgia Dec 01 '22

Would Penn State play at Heinz Field?

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u/dkviper11 Penn State β€’ Rose Bowl Dec 01 '22

I think it's an option, but I think it's more likely this greases the gears towards some stadium renovation. $6-$8 million in ticket revenue for a game can fund a lot.

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u/wjackson42 Georgia Dec 01 '22

As it stands, Penn State would be hosting Clemson this year in the first round. How cooler would that be in State College than Heinz?

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u/dkviper11 Penn State β€’ Rose Bowl Dec 01 '22

I think they'd move heaven and earth to have it at Penn State. Previously they had been contacted by the NHL to host an outdoor game with the Penguins and Flyers, but the school asked for financial assistance from the NHL to accelerate renovation plans. As the stadium sits, it's not prepared for a winter or premiere outdoor game liken that.

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u/jreid2222 Ohio State Dec 01 '22

Plus you would HAVE TO make that a white out…home playoff game, would be nuts at y’all’s place…def would want to see that

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u/dkviper11 Penn State β€’ Rose Bowl Dec 01 '22

God might make it a Whiteout.

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u/Bearcat9948 Cincinnati β€’ Big 12 Dec 01 '22

Players want a free trip to Hawaii? /s

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u/djc6535 USC β€’ RIT Dec 01 '22

Money. If the higher seed has a 35k seat stadium they’re likely to pick a bigger nearby NFL stadium for that sweet sweet playoff ticket price sellout money.

Imagine Rutgers makes it and has home field advantage. I’m sure they’d at least consider Giants stadium as an option.

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u/Officer_Warr Penn State β€’ /r/CFB Poll Veteran Dec 01 '22

I assume it's just a conditional statement in the event a stadium is not available for some bizarre reason. Something like a pre-scheduled concert, irregular events, or immediate renovations. It's also possible that in the event a small-stadium school would host but would stand a better opportunity to play somewhere else.

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u/radil LSU β€’ Georgia Tech Dec 01 '22

Yeah, sounds like it is to give wiggle room that still favors the higher seeded team. If there was no statement like this, the lower seeded team could argue that the game be played at their stadium if there was some circumstance that made playing at the higher seeded team's home stadium difficult. This removes that as a possibility.

Also smaller schools in big cities with NFL stadiums, like Tulane, might want to play at a larger stadium while retaining their "homefield" advantage.

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u/MildDrinkingProblem Texas β€’ Red River Shootout Dec 01 '22

Tired: if it happened this year TCU may want to do Jerry World since Amon g Carter is Barely 50,000.

Wired: if SMU gets to host in the future, they should play at the cotton bowl

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u/Jay_Dubbbs Ohio State β€’ Mount Union Dec 01 '22

Do we have official guidelines on how those 12 teams will be decided? I know we have heard the auto-bid system, but was that ever made official as what they will be using?

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u/bcb354 Texas β€’ UT Arlington Dec 01 '22

Yes, the 6 conference champs + 6 at-large format was already decided on.

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u/that_tall_fella Florida State β€’ West Virginia Dec 01 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

Good, now get rid of the committee.

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u/thejawa Florida State β€’ Air Force Dec 01 '22

Let CFB choose the 12!

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u/Accurate_Selection69 Jacksonville State β€’ Team Chaos Dec 01 '22

Oh y'all are fucked once we're bowl eligible

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u/KingGizzle Air Force β€’ Northwestern Dec 01 '22

Hopefully, G5 teams will get a fair shot to compete for at least a couple of playoff spots. Settling things on the field is more desirable than having people in a conference room decide which teams should have an opportunity to play.

I'm looking forward to the expansion, but I'm still skeptical that it won't suffer from the same biases as previous systems.

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u/angrygenzer Nebraska β€’ San JosΓ© State Dec 01 '22

Expand it to 100 so Nebraska can get in

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u/Egospartan_ Alabama β€’ Army Dec 01 '22

Nebraska ranked 101st :-)

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u/NolaBrass Tulane β€’ Fordham Dec 01 '22

Side note, who refers to college football seasons in multiple years? All of the current regular season is in 2022.

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u/EBuni Northern Iowa β€’ Team Chaos Dec 01 '22

They usually do it to match the school year and make it less confusing that way

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u/swxrice Rice Dec 01 '22

It's because the championships and last bowls go into January. The 2022 volleyball season is concluding right now with the national tournament. There is no "2022-23" season. Baseball is similar. The 2022 season was last spring, and the next one is the 2023 season.

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u/TigerEye2022 Dec 01 '22

That's extremely common since the post-season extends to the next year.

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u/MewhenImhigh182 Michigan β€’ Paper Bag Dec 01 '22

Glad to say we made it with 4 team format not once but twice.

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u/SerShanksALot Arizona State Dec 01 '22

Finally, ASU's time to shine

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u/Blizzard2227 /r/CFB Dec 01 '22

This is great news, but I still think the second round should also take place on campuses. That would make getting a top four seed even more important because you’re not only getting a bye, you’re also getting home field advantage in your first game. Plus, it simply allows teams who played the best to be rewarded with a home playoff game rather than just skipping right to a neutral site bowl location.

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u/PRMan99 USC Dec 01 '22

Problem is that the bowls still want to be a part of it.

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u/pappapirate Alabama β€’ South Alabama Dec 01 '22

The bowls want to be more a part of it than they are now. You could have the first round is 5-12 playing on-campus games, second round is 1-4 hosting the winners on-campus, third round is the four remaining teams playing through the 4-team playoff format we have now. Still 2 NY6 playoffs and a championship game.

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u/wjackson42 Georgia Dec 01 '22
  1. Although there are both pros and cons to this, I think the pros outweigh the cons. Yeah, Georgia/Tennessee for example becomes a seeding game instead of a borderline elimination game, but it’s good for the whole sport.

  2. I think playoff expansion keeps the PAC 12 and ACC alive. Once again, good for the sport.

  3. They don’t mention anything about networks. I wonder if Disney would be ok to go ahead and split up the CFP two years later because they can’t afford to keep the whole thing. (See CEO change for example) In my ideal scenario, ABC, Fox, and CBS split the CFP. First two rounds are comprised of 2 games on ABC and 1 game each on Fox and CBS. Then the semifinals are on ABC for a game and then rotated between Fox and CBS for the other game. Then the championship is on ABC because it feels right for Chris and Kirk to call the national championship. And it didn’t feel right when Fox had the BCS CG.

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u/TheNextBattalion Oklahoma β€’ Kansas Dec 01 '22

For TV, I think the CFP would be wise to follow the NFL model and split among networks.

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u/wjackson42 Georgia Dec 01 '22

I think it would be good and wise. Having your four announcers be Fowler/Herbstreit, McDonough/Blackedge, Nessler/Danielson, and Johnson/Klatt feels more β€œbig time” than if you replaced the last two with Tessitore/McElroy and Wischusen/Orvlosky for example.

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u/foreveracubone Michigan β€’ Sickos Dec 01 '22

ESPN said they’re open to splitting earlier this year iirc

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