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Kanye West Tells Alex Jones: ‘I Like Hitler’ article
https://www.thedailybeast.com/kanye-west-tells-alex-jones-that-i-like-hitler?via=twitter_page&utm_source=twitter_owned_tdb&utm_campaign=owned_social&utm_medium=socialflow2.7k
u/rastamasta44 Dec 01 '22
"The longtime prime minister, along with the Mossad, an Israeli intelligence agency, want to take Ye’s children away, the rapper bizarrely claimed."
Because foreign governments are constantly interfering in custody cases
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u/Beaneroo Dec 01 '22
Mass paranoia… I’m starting to think he maybe unwell in the head
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u/JDogish Dec 01 '22
Starting?
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u/appleparkfive Dec 02 '22
Yeah it was bad enough in the mid 2010s, but this is another level
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u/RE4PER_ Dec 01 '22
It's like textbook schizophrenia at this point
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u/coffeeandloops Dec 01 '22
Very classic paranoid delusions, it's pretty clear he's having an extreme manic episode with severe psychosis. It's mind-boggling this guy hasn't had some sort of intervention yet. He's having a psychotic break in front of the entire world.
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u/PhaliceInWonderland Dec 01 '22
This has been going on for years. As much as I'm not a fan of Kim or her family and don't give 2 fucks about them, could you imagine being married to this guy?
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u/liiiam0707 Dec 02 '22
Credit where its actually due to Kim, she seemed to try. She spoke out about his mental health, defended him until he went too far, and then left him once he'd hit that point. She did more than most people would have done for him
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u/PhaliceInWonderland Dec 02 '22
I agree, and I do give her credit because it's hard.
This is probably the most "human" or "normal" thing she's ever had to deal with.
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u/xarsha_93 Dec 02 '22
Seriously. Britney Spears got placed under a conservatorship for shaving her head and somehow Kanye is just walking around?
I'm a fan of the guy's music and been following his career for years. He's been unwell for a long time. He needs serious help that he's not getting. Instead he's being given airtime to help disseminate hate speech.
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u/down_up__left_right Dec 02 '22
If he was a woman he would be in a conservatorship by now.
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u/BCJunglist Dec 01 '22
Seems more like bipolar with psychosis. He's manic with delusions of grandeur and paranoia.
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u/RedTheDopeKing Dec 01 '22
Remember when the idea of a black white supremacist was just a funny Dave Chapelle skit?
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u/durntaur Dec 01 '22
Remember when Bill Burr talked about putting Kanye's ego into a white person?
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u/CVHC1981 Dec 01 '22
Billy red nuts becoming a modern day Carlin before our very eyes.
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u/AbeRego Dec 01 '22
Turns out he didn't even need to be white! He just needed time to reach his final solu... er... form.
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u/OverallAd9971 Dec 01 '22
Oh my god, his next album is going to be called, “Ye Final Solution”, isn’t it?
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u/sephiam Dec 01 '22
Burr is consistently streets ahead
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u/BDoooon Dec 01 '22
Stop trying to make streets ahead a thing!
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u/agutema Dec 01 '22
“My only regret is I’ll never get to see myself perform live.”
-A Stable Genius
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u/FranklynTheTanklyn Dec 01 '22
Who could ever forget Clayton Biggsby?
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u/sofakingon Dec 01 '22
ClaYEton Bigsby
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u/OneTime_AtBandCamp Dec 01 '22
Clayton Bigsby was blind. The only way they could make the sketch work was if Bigsby didn't know he was black. Reality, apparently, has no such limitations.
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u/Cruciblelfg123 Dec 01 '22
Tbf at the end he divorces his wife for quote “being a n***er lover”
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u/KnightofNi92 Dec 01 '22
I forget who it was attributed to, but I remember a quote from years ago that the difference between writing fantasy and real life is that fantasy needs make logical sense.
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Dec 01 '22
Antisemitism is not limited to any particular type of bigot unfortunately.
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u/redmerger Dec 01 '22
No type of discrimination is limited unfortunately. There will always be those, no matter what their background is who think themselves as superior to others because the conditions of their birth.
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u/dweeb93 Dec 01 '22
Apparently Alex Jones pushed back on his anti-Semitism, when Alex fucking Jones is the voice of reason you are too far gone.
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u/HappyHarryHardOn Dec 01 '22
Speaking of reason, what does Nazism has to offer a black person? How does that work? I can't wrap my head around the stupid.
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u/HelliswhereIwannabe Dec 01 '22
You gotta look at Kanye as a disgustingly rich narcissist first, and a black man second.
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u/RandomCandor Dec 01 '22
More importantly, Kanye thinks of himself as a black man about as much as he thinks of himself as a Jew.
Which is to say: only when it's convenient.
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u/tinaxbelcher Dec 01 '22
Kanye is Uncle Ruckus on steroids
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u/BudgetBrick Dec 01 '22
If you google Uncle Ruckus, does Kanye still show up as the first result? Lmfao. When he first said slavery was a choice, that was what happened.
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u/Genghis_Chong Dec 01 '22
You nailed it on the head. I'm surprised he's not chucking bricks at Obama somewhere lol
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u/brianfallen97 Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 02 '22
NOT MY PRESIDENT, OBAMA HUSSAIN! shockputs another brick
EDIT: this is what uncle ruckus says in The Boondocks
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u/Excludos Dec 01 '22
Let's just say Samuel L. Jackson's character in Django Unchained wasn't wholly unrealistic
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u/Witness_me_Karsa Dec 01 '22
Yes, those who served the master directly and lived in the house often truly were treated relatively well. This is one of the reasons people used to talk about how their parents were nice to slaves when they were little, and it's because they only met those who worked in the house.
Using some among the oppressed in order to break the spirit of the others has always been part of the deal. The nazis used it, too, and had jews sell out other jews so that they thought that they were "safe".
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u/AbeRego Dec 01 '22
The Nazis literally used the Jim Crow South as a model for how to oppress Jews in Germany.
European fascism drew on ideas that bad been cultivated in the Southern US for over a century.
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u/Redpin Dec 01 '22
The Nazis also knew enough about Jim Crow to leverage it for propaganda directed at black soldiers as well!
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u/SideshowCircuits Dec 02 '22
The USA military was still segregated at the time as well. There were actual fights between UK locals and American officers over their treatment of black troops and the demand for places to be designated as whites only.
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u/Techhead7890 Dec 02 '22
Ugh. That's so manipulative, but so also precisely targeted... The Nazis were terrifying capable in that way.
Categorically not good, not responsible professionals. But powerfully skilled. I'm glad so many other countries united to take them down.
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u/majorjoe23 Dec 01 '22
Hey, that's a half truth! They also took inspiration from how the US dealt with Native Americans!
Wait, are we the baddies?
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u/BelphegorPrime Dec 02 '22
Sometimes we are. Wish all of us as citizens of the USA could just accept that and learn from it.
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u/Dizzy-Ad9431 Dec 01 '22
The Nazis took a decent chunk of their inspiration for how america expanded into the west for what they did in eastern Europe.
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u/TheMadTemplar Dec 01 '22
Minority and POC racists are like a godsend to other racists because then they say, "look, black people agree with us. We're not racists."
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u/OsamaBinFuckin Dec 01 '22
It's edgelord behavior
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u/CankerLord Dec 01 '22
Yeah, the cultural reasons for why racist nationalism can thrive in black communities has deep, complex roots but the reason it's coming out of this individual person's mouth is mostly right wing edgelording gone horribly awry.
He's heard what these racist friends of his say behind closed doors and he's like "I gotta tell people the world about this shit! Time to wake up to the nature of the Jew!" Mostly because he's too stupid and nuts to know why he shouldn't.
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u/imnotdown85 Dec 01 '22
Right?! I'm a Jewish person and all I can think is like... Haven't you experienced hate yourself? Why are you passing the buck? We gotta stick together man.
Get back on your fucking meds and stop being the war cry for white supremacists
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u/Kalessi Dec 01 '22
Or anyone ? I live in Miami and the Cubans aren’t quite grasping the whole alt- right movement
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u/PapaSmurfOrochi Dec 01 '22
It’s also tied to how racially divided Latin American countries are. Light skinned Latinos, who are viewed as “white” in their counties come to America thinking they will be treated the same.
My grandmother, despite being born in South America, claims she’s Spanish for this same reason. She’s light skinned.
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u/Lord_Kano Dec 01 '22
It’s also tied to how racially divided Latin American countries are. Light skinned Latinos, who are viewed as “white” in their counties come to America thinking they will be treated the same.
That reminds me of the essay "A White Woman Of Color".
She was considered "White" in the Dominican Republic and thought that would apply in the USA. She got here and found out that she was BROWN and Not-White.
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u/PaxNova Dec 01 '22
"White" has always been malleable. When Hispanics become the majority in the US, you can bet that they'll become "white" too, like Italians and Irish before them. It simply defines the smallest group that can still be perceived as the majority.
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u/zoinkability Dec 01 '22
Heck, a ligher-skinned hispanic person without a Spanish accent here in the US basically passes in current day U.S.
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u/KMFDM781 Dec 01 '22
I have family from south Texas in the Rio Grande Valley and a lot of the light skinned Mexicans look down and are actively racist against the more indigenous, darker, native American looking Mexicans and South Americans. I've heard them called Border Jumpers by lighter skinned Mexicans.
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u/trollthumper Dec 01 '22
Likewise, we had that whole scandal here in Los Angeles where a Latin member of the City Council was caught on tape calling more indigenous Mexicans from Oaxaca "ugly," along with a whole lot of other racism and colorism.
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u/daCampa Dec 01 '22
Cubans in Florida simply believe whoever says "the other side" is communist.
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u/BrutusCarmichael Dec 01 '22
Yeah I used to work with a young liberal Cuban girl that moved back to Florida from New York like 5 years ago, went full MAGA
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u/Jennyferr0412 Dec 01 '22
He wasn't that much of the voice of reason tbh;
Ye’s appearance featured plenty of other antisemitic remarks and attacks on Jewish people, with Jones claiming there is a “Jewish mafia” and that Jewish people control Hollywood. Ye held up an orange net and a bottle of Yoo-hoo chocolate drink, which he claimed represented Israeli leader Benjamin Netanyahu.
It's just that what Kanye said was so fucking batshit it made Jones look normal. I still don't know what the net and bottle of Yoo-hoo have to do with this though. Or why he thinks Netanyahu wants his kids. He really is a stupid asshole.
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u/Batmans_9th_Ab Dec 01 '22
It’s a “Net an’ Yoo-Hoo”
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u/flatulating_ninja Dec 01 '22
He can come up with that but fish sticks confuses him?
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u/TheMadFlyentist Spotify Dec 01 '22
That is both batshit insane and hilariously creative in the stupidest possible way.
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u/elfo222 Dec 01 '22
Is... is the joke supposed to be "NetAndYoo-Hoo"? Because I swear...
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u/HGpennypacker Dec 01 '22
"Alex Jones pushes back on anti-Semitism" was most definitely not on my December bingo card.
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u/walkingwarcrime072 Dec 01 '22
Nah, Alex just doesn't want to be associated with it, he's lost enough court cases
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u/TKHawk Dec 01 '22
Eh, he can't possibly lose MORE money, can he?
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u/TocTheEternal Dec 01 '22
In an economic sense it's almost literally impossible lol.
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u/cal405 Dec 01 '22
I remember when I'm 2018 a bunch of publications theorized all of west's bs was some kind of brilliant performance art. I wonder what they have to say now.
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u/Osceana Dec 01 '22
They still claim that. This was all a masterstroke by Kanye to get out of his contract with Adidas so he can sell his own shoes and get 100% profit. He’s just trolling people, he’s not really like that. Etc.
Fucking clowns man. They’ll make up the most elaborate fanfic where he’s some James Bond-like figure subverting everyone as a part of some evil Dr. Claw scheme instead of just facing the blunt reality of Occam’s Razor that maybe he’s just an idiot and dickhead that’s finally overplayed his hand.
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u/TenderloinGroin Dec 01 '22
It’s easy to fact check, but nobody seems to be contacting Ja Rule.
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u/CadetCovfefe Dec 01 '22
People are concocting the same theories with Musk; that is, "he spent $44 billion to deliberately destroy Twitter! 11d chess!"
Some people have a hard time understanding that filthy rich and famous people didn't necessarily get that way by being extremely bigly brained.
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u/RedNotch Dec 02 '22 edited Dec 02 '22
As an example for your point, I had an argument about musk here on reddit and all the dude can say was something along the lines of “you don’t get it, he is the richest man alive. If you think this wasn’t planned then you are an idiot” I repeatedly asked him to explain what the plan was and he just kept avoiding it until he blocked me lol.
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u/airJordan45 Dec 01 '22
He would hate you, Kanye.
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u/ChrisInBaltimore Dec 01 '22
Yea this is just so confusing. What does he think Nazis did to black people? He acts like he knows everything, but then acts incredibly dense about common knowledge. Personally it’s time we stopped talking about him and talking about the fact one of our formerly sitting presidents sat down to a meal with the man. Ye is clearly very ill.
This is political theater on an entirely different field.
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u/Elendel19 Dec 01 '22
He hates Jewish people more than he cares for black people, that’s pretty clear at this point.
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u/Recr3tional Dec 01 '22
I saw a tweet that said maybe Kanye thinks Pete Davidson is Jewish lol
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u/daikatana Dec 01 '22
He would have loved Kanye... as a useful idiot. As soon as he was of no more use he would have been sent to the camps. There were a number of people and groups that knew they were targets of the nazis and tried to side with them and this is more or less what happened.
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u/britboy4321 Dec 01 '22
Yes, some Jewish people helped the Nazis in the death camps not because the Nazi's promised their freedom .. rather because the Nazis promised it would mean they would be killed last.
Absolutely horrible.
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u/internetzdude Dec 01 '22
I'm pretty sure both of these people are mentally ill.
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u/DinkandDrunk Dec 01 '22
It’s well known that Kanye West is at least bipolar.
Alex Jones is just a grifter.
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u/707Guy Dec 01 '22
I watched a documentary about Kanye on Netflix, and you can literally see his mental health degrade as the documentary goes on.
At one part he has Justin Bieber visiting him, and Kanye’s just on a rant about absolute nonsense while Justin has a look on his face that says’ “mister mister! Get me outta here!”
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u/Jayco424 Dec 02 '22
I remember seeing that! I'm I'm not a Bieber fan at all, but seriously poor Justin looked terrified!
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u/Lassemomme Dec 01 '22
During his child custody case it did come out that Alex had been clinically diagnosed as a narcissist, I believe. Obviously, it’s possible to be both a grifter and a narcissist. In fact, it might be pretty big benefit to bothZ
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u/dwilkes827 Dec 01 '22
huh, I honestly didn't know narcissism was something that was clinically diagnosed
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u/YouNeedAnne Dec 01 '22
Narcissistic Personality Disorder is, but you can be narcissistic without having NPD.
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u/Burnt_and_Blistered Dec 01 '22
Kanye is mentally ill. He’s also a scumbag.
The two are not mutually exclusive.
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u/ScionMattly Dec 01 '22
You know, every day I think I've heard the most insane thing come out of this guy's mouth. And every day he surprises me.
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u/inkyblinkypinkysue Dec 01 '22
What the fuck timeline is this?
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Dec 01 '22
Trump was president, and it's spelled, Berenstain. Its the fucked up timeline. Sorry we are all here.
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u/conker1264 Dec 01 '22
His career is done
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u/runeguy53 Dec 01 '22
Yeah I can’t even imagine Spotify letting him put out new music by this point or any venues letting him do any concerts. Once you cross the Nazi line it’s game over.
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u/all_rendered_truth Dec 01 '22
I think Spotify doesn’t care. Exhibit A: https://www.adl.org/resources/blog/white-supremacist-music-prevalent-spotify-while-platform-largely-declines-act
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u/BlazeInNorthernSky Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 02 '22
That’s mostly obscure shit that almost nobody knows or cares about, Kanye still on spotify will make headlines. Whether they act is another story.
edit: Also that article fucking sucks, calling Mayhem NSBM and saying norwegian black metal is death metal. Typical adl publishing bullshit that sounds like it will cause outrage.
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u/achmedclaus Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22
I think it's time that, as a country, we stop giving Kanye any attention whatsoever. Let him lose all his money on bad investments and dropped sponsorships, let him go to a cushy mental rehabilitation center, let him just live out his life. It doesn't matter how good his music is, he's literally losing his mind and is doing so much more damage than good. His insanity is spreading and for some reason people are still paying him to appear on their shows.
It's time to let Kanye go.
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u/aar19 Dec 01 '22
“For some reason people are still paying him to appear on their shows”
They are taking advantage of someone’s mental illness because they know he’ll believe the fucked up conspiracy’s they show him.
I couldn’t tell you another person who Alex Jones has had on his show recently, but he pays Kanye to come on, gets him going until he says something controversial like this, and now his show is making headlines.
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u/electricmaster23 Dec 01 '22
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think Kanye has locked up the white supremacist vote for 2024.
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u/sonicqaz Dec 01 '22
I don’t know how reality gets exponentially crazier every year and knowing that, I still can’t imagine how much crazier it’s going to be.
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u/electricmaster23 Dec 02 '22
It's the Flynn effect but for insanity. Hold on for dear life, my friend.
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u/LuminalAstec Dec 01 '22
He made Alex Jone look good..... how the Fuck can you make Alex Jones look good?!?!
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u/Defoler Dec 01 '22
"The holocaust is not what happened".
"He didn't kill 6 million jews".
"Obama was not the first black president he was another jewish president".
"They did good things too we should stop dissing the nazis all the time".
That guy went full throttle in his anti-semitism and hate toward jews.
I think slowly outside of the most extreme nazi far right places, no one is going to give west any platform to talk at in fear of being associated with his mental breakdown.
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u/The_Vampire_Barlow Dec 01 '22
This is all going to end with Kanye killing someone.
I don't mean his rhetoric getting someone killed. That'll happen too. He's actually going to end up killing someone.
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u/FlyingPiranha Dec 02 '22
I'm still shocked it wasn't Pete Davidson considering the ugliness of his rhetoric and borderline stalking of the man.
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u/RaevynReaper Dec 02 '22
I’ve thought this same thing, but what I’m concerned about isn’t him killing a random person. I’m worried he’ll go after his own children.
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u/cycling_sender Dec 01 '22
I'm really glad that he's being so transparent about how fucked up he is. Rather than inferring his antisemitism like most of these characters he is actually refreshingly clear about his stance. He's still totally nuts and deserves to have his reputation utterly destroyed but at least he's not trying to hide it. People gave Ye the benefit of the doubt SO MANY TIMES throughout his career because of his musical success but this is indefensible. I don't particularly care for Kim's influence either but I really feel for her in this and hope she keeps the kids well away from him.
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u/BabylonDrifter Dec 01 '22
“We’ve got to stop dissing the Nazis all the time.” - Kanye West, Republican Presidential Candidate
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u/junostation Dec 01 '22
Did they just dump a bunch of lead into the LA tap water or something?
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u/filmmaker30 Dec 01 '22
Dude really never wants to see his children again I guess. What a piece of shit
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u/LordAnon5703 Dec 01 '22
I mean, this definitely just seems like he's mentally ill now. Like seriously, quickly declining. This is actually exactly what happened in Chicago with a very famous sign holder. Literally almost overnight going from a well-dressed professional to claiming that an FBI agent took his wife, his kids, and was raping him, his wife, and or his kids.
That's the line that really struck me. That he thinks the Israelis want to take his kid. This isn't the same thing as Donald Trump or DeSantis anymore. It should honestly be illegal to give a platform to somebody like this, because now it's just a freak show. This probably should be considered exploitative.
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u/eeeedlef Dec 02 '22
Now? He's been diagnosed for a long time and has been quite open about his desire to not take prescribed medication. He's honestly a danger to himself at this point.
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u/visvis Dec 01 '22
The part about Netanyahu going after his kids clearly shows he has paranoid delusions.
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u/weluckyfew Dec 01 '22
"Ye, whose face was entirely hidden behind a black mask"
Because of course it was.
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u/Comet_Empire Dec 01 '22
The incredibly sad and ironic fact is a man who looks and behaves like Kanye West would be executed by the Nazis All. Day. Long. A mentally ill black man would be one of the first to go. They wouldn't even use him for labor.
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u/2020steve Dec 01 '22
Ye held up an orange net and a bottle of Yoo-hoo chocolate drink, which he claimed represented Israeli leader Benjamin Netanyahu.
While I'm definitely disgusted with Kanye's "we've got to stop dissing the Nazis" bullshit, this right here is just too damn weird. He actually knows who Netanyahu is? I'm a little lost with the metaphor...
Fuck Ye. I'm done reading anything about him. Maybe I'll check his obituary when it comes out in a few months.
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u/mickeybod Dec 01 '22
Net & yoo-hoo = Netanyahu
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u/YolognaiSwagetti Dec 01 '22
okay this actually made me laugh
a black superstar rapper nazi making dumb word jokes. sounds like a comedy character Sasha Baron Cohen would do
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Wow, I never considered letting my brain go to such a stupid but obvious place.
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u/No_Damage_731 Dec 01 '22
Man I’m just fucking upset about this whole thing. I’ve been a pretty huge kanye fan since before his first album came out. Over the years it’s been harder and harder to support him. I stopped listening to his music 6 months ago and he was still number 2 on my Spotify wrapped this year. Had to explain that to a few friends haha.
Just sucks this is what one of my favorite artists of all time has become.
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u/UnicornSlayer5000 Dec 01 '22
WTF is on his head?