Most unnecessary on-screen “innocent”/ extra death?

[u/KnuckleHeadLuck]

What movie or what character holds the worst on-screen death for an extra/ “innocent archetype”? Lots of poor souls over the years have fell victim to the plot of a film. Who holds that title for you?

Good examples are characters that get shot in place of the main character, innocent passerby’s being hit by something, the wrong character triggering a bomb etc.

What’s your pick?

[u/MoviesMod]

Spoilers for unrelated popular TV shows below. We'll get 'em eventually but be warned.

Users are careless/evil/lost, pick your poison.

[u/emf3rd31495]

Haven’t seen it mentioned yet, but the step dad in 2012 who is nothing short of a good dude and gets crushed to death and then completely forgotten about.

[u/poosebunger → u/emf3rd31495]

Like immediately completely forgotten

[u/paulchen81 → u/poosebunger]

Literally 5min later his widow is kissing her ex... ruined the whole movie.

[u/LaszloKravensworth → u/emf3rd31495]

Not only crushed to death, but swallowed up in the cogs of a giant gear mechanism FEET FIRST. Probably one of the most gruesome and horrifying ways to die aside from burning to death. Like, that would be therapy for life to witness that, and the wife just runs into John Cusack's arms like nothing happened.

[u/geo_gan → u/LaszloKravensworth]

Ironically I don’t remember him or this scene at all in this movie and I do have it on disc

[u/UhOhSparklepants → u/geo_gan]

This movie pissed me off. I just remember siding with the asshole rich guy during the scene when the tidal wave is coming and they want to hold the door for like 3 people.

It’s a fucking boat full of the last survivors of humanity, and you want to potentially doom thousands to save a few stragglers? They had no idea they would be able to close the doors in time. The hero could have easily doomed everyone and yet the rich guy is the asshole for saying “hey, maybe we should just go so we don’t get sunk by the big wave that’s coming?”

[u/FranticPonE → u/emf3rd31495]

Roland Emmerich has major problems with stepdads and instead of going to therapy for it just keeps killing them off horrifically in his movies

[u/bookoocash]

The turtle in Cannibal Holocaust.

[u/sharrrper → u/bookoocash]

Extra bad since it ACTUALLY died for real.

[u/CoolHeadedLogician → u/bookoocash]

And the snake in Friday the 13th

[u/TK464 → u/CoolHeadedLogician]

God, learned about that one the other day. They had the snakes owner on set and didn't tell him that they were just going to fucking kill it in the scene, and the guy was crying afterwards because he thought it was gonna be a fun movie shoot with his pet and instead they just up and murdered it.

What the fuck man.

[u/CoolHeadedLogician → u/TK464]

Yeah this is exactly how i heard it too. I would be beside myself if somebody intentionally killed my pet

[u/Ferris_Wheel_Skippy → u/CoolHeadedLogician]

Worst part is the guy thought it would be fun and just wanted his pet to be in a movie.

Just thinking about how he went from excited to utter sadness is so damn depressing to think about

[u/KnuckleHeadLuck → u/CoolHeadedLogician]

I would become John Wick if someone killed my pet.

[u/pistol_polly → u/TK464]

damn i didn't know that. i remember watching it with my husband years ago and being like. 'They actually killed that snake, didn't they? Fuck'. made me a little sick. poor owner :(

[u/MegaMugabe21 → u/pistol_polly]

It's honestly fucking insane they got away with that. Sean Cunningham is a total fucking cunt, hopefully another snake gets its revenge.

[u/lovetoread_87 → u/TK464]

Jfc, they just asked someone to borrow their pet without telling him they were planning to kill it? Like, it wouldn't make it better if the owner was in on it, but it definitely makes it worse that he wasn't. Wtaf.

[u/SlayerofSnails → u/lovetoread_87]

I'm honestly shocked he didn't try to sue the shit out of them or assault them

[u/MyNameIs-Anthony → u/SlayerofSnails]

He did try to assault them lol. He was livid.

[u/jaimonee → u/TK464]

Apparently they had to restrain him as he was going to kick the shit out of the director, which I fully support.

[u/AreWeCowabunga]

The entire escalator worth of people in Total Recall.

[u/shaffe04gt → u/AreWeCowabunga]

Oh yeah, Arnold totally uses that one guy as a meat shield

[u/Brokenshatner → u/shaffe04gt]

Or the dance floor of Tech Noir, in Terminator. Arnold finally has Sara Connor in his sights, then she and Kyle Reese keep slipping behind 80s extras. Meat shields galore.

[u/Misfit110 → u/AreWeCowabunga]

OP said unnecessary.

[u/TrueLegateDamar]

Those hundreds of people in the city who were absorbed by Parallax in Green Lantern(2011), they had their souls sucked out and their bodies disintegrated while Ryan Reynolds was bumbling around.

[u/itsallpoliticsalex → u/TrueLegateDamar]

It’s ok. Less people watched the movie than died

[u/Jeajaosh]

The guy in Titanic who falls and bonks on a railing on the way down

[u/EmersonEsq → u/Jeajaosh]

Propeller guy is the best death from that film. Iconic.

[u/neo_sporin → u/EmersonEsq]

Propeller guy was going to be my answer…like his death wasn’t unnecessary, but was it necessary to have him hit a propeller? No, it wasn’t the death we needed, but it was the e one we deserved

[u/3-DMan → u/neo_sporin]

Cameron: "You know what would be cool..?"

[u/SimpleDan11 → u/3-DMan]

I'd bet anything they were looking at the story boards for those shots and saw the propeller and thought..."I mean we kind of have to..."

[u/jesuswig → u/3-DMan]

I’m pretty sure he’s on record saying he did that one for laughs

[u/FlyRobot → u/EmersonEsq]

I remember the entire theater laughing at propeller guy

[u/Lemesplain]

Freddy Rodriguez in Poseidon.

Giant cruise ship flips over and everyone inside is trying to find safety. Freddy is one of the ship’s staff, and as he’s helping Richard Dreyfus climb to safety, Freddy gets dropped down an elevator shaft.

But falling to his death isn’t enough, so he lands on some sharp, pointy wreckage and gets stabbed to death in addition to falling. And then the elevator falls down the shaft and crushes him. Then everything explodes.

They unloaded 4 different action movie villain deaths on a minimum wage busboy who was just trying to help.

[u/is5416 → u/Lemesplain]

That entire movie was an exercise in expendable diverse characters. Their only purpose is to help the mains and then be killed off.

[u/SmileyRhea → u/Lemesplain]

I mean, not only that but Dreyfus literally kicks him off of him to make him fall. Ugh, that part was very fucked up.

[u/B__Malz]

the hobbit that gets beheaded by the black rider lol. They weren't gonna stop 9 freaks with the scent of the ring on their nose.

[u/Dr-Gooseman → u/B__Malz]

Oof yeah, imagine being the hobbit that finds that the next day.

Also bonus points, the gatekeeper in Bree that gets squished.

[u/Kaiserhawk → u/Dr-Gooseman]

Oof yeah, imagine being the hobbit that finds that the next day.

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Probably the most horrific thing in the shire for the past couple of hundred years.

[u/wheresmyspacebar2 → u/Dr-Gooseman]

It's funny because the gatekeeper in bree that gets squished brought a cheer to me.

His name is Harry Goatleaf and in the books, he knowingly let's the Black Riders through the gates and then after the fellowship leave, he teams up with the brigands and kills/robs the men in bree before he leaves and joins the brigands at The Shire who tear up the place and murder hobbits.

Such a better ending for him in the film :P

[u/ageowns]

The squeaking shoe in Who Framed Roger Rabbit

[u/madkiki12 → u/ageowns]

Childhood trauma.

[u/celesticaxxz → u/ageowns]

That scene has scarred me forever. Like I can’t watch that movie now as an adult

[u/bl00df1redeath → u/ageowns]

Always disturbed me

[u/MBA1988123 → u/bl00df1redeath]

Still remember it in a disturbing way and have not seen the film in over 20 years. Same with Mars Attacks.

Legitimately cathartic to see that other people had similar reactions to this on the Internet, I though I was weird.

[u/CaptainCAAAVEMAAAAAN → u/ageowns]

I still skip that scene. It's so cruel!

[u/AnyNamesLeftAnymore → u/ageowns]

Such a cruel death. Doom just executes a sentient being who as far as I know, was accused of no crime. It's sitting there begging for its life with its eyes the entire time.

[u/SaltySteveD87]

Pretty much everyone killed by the T-1000 in Terminator 2. Particularly the dude just walking in the hallway carrying a soda.

[u/EarthExile → u/SaltySteveD87]

Pour one out for the guy he throws out of a helicopter

[u/Elman103 → u/EarthExile]

Doesn’t he just say get out and the guy jumps? Scene freaked me out.

[u/XaulXan → u/Elman103]

If you watch closely he actually jumps out of the helicopter twice in that scene due to an editing continuity error

[u/party_shaman → u/XaulXan]

no he was just that scared

[u/jerichomega → u/EarthExile]

I always thought he might’ve lived. The fall wasn’t that far and if I recall correctly he’s flying over grass at the time.

[u/ThrowawayVangelis → u/jerichomega]

In the really old T2 behind the scenes I think JC or one of the writers said they like to believe the guy just broke his legs lol

[u/Darmok47 → u/jerichomega]

He's over the parking lot, so he falls on concrete. But he was only two floors up, so he probably survived, just with broken legs. You do see two cops run over to him.

I always wondered what his police report would have said. They must have wondered why he jumped out of his helicopter, after all.

[u/drstu3000 → u/SaltySteveD87]

But T-1000's are built specifically to kill humans

[u/shaffe04gt]

Not a total extra but minor character, the assistant in jurassic world had a pretty drawn out brutal death for a minor character

[u/Comic_Book_Reader → u/shaffe04gt]

A very random fact about that? It is the first time a woman is shown being killed in a Jurassic movie.

[u/Senorpuddin → u/shaffe04gt]

She got a more brutal death than the main human antagonist (he died off screen) and other than being what appears to be a bridezilla didn’t deserve such a fucked up death.

[u/Nivekian13 → u/Senorpuddin]

I was more disappointed that they did the "bigger fish" death minimization deal. Cant even have her eaten by one monster, had to do it in the background.

[u/Senorpuddin → u/Nivekian13]

I read that it was even worse originally. She calls the main female character’s cell from inside the dinosaur or something thing to that effect.

[u/Toasty_Cat830 → u/Senorpuddin]

Well that’s just plain ridiculous haha

[u/Senorpuddin → u/Toasty_Cat830]

I know. Who calls their boss?

[u/Toasty_Cat830 → u/Senorpuddin]

Lmao you just keep that shit to WhatsApp, as the gods intended

[u/almostsk84globe → u/shaffe04gt]

Don't forget about Eddie from The Lost World. Poor guy was just trying to save his friends and got ripped in half by the 2 T-Rex

[u/GoatGurl4Ever → u/almostsk84globe]

I hate his death. Even when he was trying to avoid them, he was still trying to make sure his friends didn’t die

[u/caligaris_cabinet → u/GoatGurl4Ever]

The worst part is none of those 3 were worth saving. Especially Sarah considering she brought a baby T.Rex back to the camp.

[u/DerelictDonkeyEngine → u/shaffe04gt]

Lmao this would be my answer too. IIRC she was pretty much just trying to keep track of the kids (not her job), and they kept running away.

That end scene where she gets eaten by a dinosaur, and then that dinosaur gets eaten by another dinosaur while she's still alive was goddam ridiculous.

[u/orangemaroon25 → u/DerelictDonkeyEngine]

There's always a bigger fish.

[u/writingt → u/shaffe04gt]

This was my first thought. Just ridiculously over the top and the kind of death you usually save for an actual antagonist. It felt so mean-spirited.

[u/Liramuza → u/writingt]

I felt the same way, the actress specifically requested it though - and I can’t really blame her, if I had the same opportunity I’d do it too

[u/FierySharknado → u/Liramuza]

Why am I not dying horrifically? I specifically requested it.

[u/3-DMan → u/Liramuza]

That's funny, and totally accurate for actors" mindsets

[u/AbbreviationsGlad833]

I Felt horrible for the middle aged woman who got shot in the thigh in the street shoot out scene in pulp fiction.

[u/paul_having_a_ball → u/AbbreviationsGlad833]

I believe that is the same actress who plays the lady that shoots and gets shot by Mr. Orange when they try to jack her car.

Correction: it has been pointed out that she is the woman that gets carjacked by Mr. Pink.

Revision: I meant to use the word “correction” since I didn’t actually revise the statement.

[u/maskofharrow89 → u/paul_having_a_ball]

Nah she was the one Mr. Pink pulled out of the car when he was running from the cops

[u/Spookyy422 → u/AbbreviationsGlad833]

Oh man, I shot Marvin in the face

[u/brunovonbeefpipe]

Petey the parakeet in Dumb & Dumber.

First saw that movie as a kid and I was inconsolable.

[u/godofhorizons → u/brunovonbeefpipe]

Dude, Lloyd took care of it, I don’t know what you’re talking about

[u/JohnnieJH]

That one Ewok in Return of the Jedi

[u/__Seris__ → u/JohnnieJH]

Jesus, when his friend tries to shake him awake and starts crying.

[u/Stardustchaser → u/__Seris__]

Lucas added the Ewoks to appeal to more kids.

And then killed that Ewok in a way that even little kids like me realized something was very wrong. Shit was no longer cartoon violence with everyone probably ok with that scene. Looking back (I was five watching that film) that was probably one of the clearest definitions of death I understood.

[u/txa1265 → u/Stardustchaser]

I was junior in high school when it came out ... and it felt like no one wanted to admit they cried / were emotional during that scene! It still gets me.

[u/Snoo93079 → u/Stardustchaser]

Kids aren't supposed to have emotional scenes?

Bambi yo

[u/Steepleofknives83 → u/__Seris__]

I might be the only one, but I fucking love the Ewoks.

[u/buddrball → u/Steepleofknives83]

There’s two of us! I love them so much

[u/TheRomanRuler → u/JohnnieJH]

I don't think it was unnecessary though. It added lot of emotion to that battle.

[u/Mike_Minotti]

I felt really bad about that waitress who got caught up in the Inglorious Bastards shootout.

[u/timeformorecake]

Milton in The Suicide Squad. Although he's not a total innocent with his role in the resistance, he's quietly one of the most important and helpful members of Task Force X. I mean, he drove the van and got them empanadas. And only Polka Dot Man acknowledges his death, let alone existence.

[u/Comic_Book_Reader → u/timeformorecake]

Who the fuck is Milton?

[u/duaneap → u/Comic_Book_Reader]

Milton being in the slow “hero walk,” with the rest of the squad was the funniest moment of the film for me.

[u/RealJohnGillman → u/duaneap]

Something else I do find quite funny is that the Wikia people keep having arguments over whether or not Milton technically then counts as a member of the Suicide Squad because of that.

[u/Janderflows → u/RealJohnGillman]

Lol imagine a promotional art of him like the ones we got from the others. Then everyone would be like "who the fuck is Milton?".

[u/Kodlaken → u/Comic_Book_Reader]

I actually didn't remember who Milton was and so I literally asked myself "who the fuck is Milton?" and now I'm dying of laughter because that's exactly what the joke in the movie is.

[u/attemptedmonknf → u/Comic_Book_Reader]

Yeah i think I'd remember is there as a character named milton in the movie

[u/AnyNamesLeftAnymore → u/Comic_Book_Reader]

You know, Milton.

[u/RushtonIX → u/timeformorecake]

or the entire rebel camp that got killed in a dick measuring contest between two hitmen

[u/PapuhBoie → u/timeformorecake]

Somebody named “Milton” has been with us the whole time?

[u/GamingTatertot → u/timeformorecake]

To be fair, Bloodsport acknowledges his existence, just didn't realize Milton was still with them

[u/xcaughta]

Peter in Deadpool 2

[u/randomacct7679 → u/xcaughta]

It’s all good he uses Cable’s thing to fix it later.

[u/admiraljkb]

The whale in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

edit - fixed word cuz I hadn't had enough coffee.... Sorry

[u/BirdsLikeSka → u/admiraljkb]

Fun fact, we do get to discover in the books why the bowl of peonies/petunias/whatever they were thought, "not again." And it's fan-fuckin-tastic.

[u/CeruleanRuin → u/BirdsLikeSka]

That's by far one of the best examples of a convoluted retcon in any piece of fiction. It's totally contrived and ridiculous, but it fits perfectly with the story being woven.

There's zero chance that Douglas Adams knew why the bowl of petunias said that when he wrote it, but I can picture him grinning out loud when he came up with the later gag.

[u/thuktun → u/BirdsLikeSka]

Not for Agrajag, presumably.

[u/cbrookman → u/admiraljkb]

What’s this thing suddenly coming towards me very fast? So big and flat and round, it needs a big wide sounding name like … ow … ound … round … ground! That’s it! That’s a good name – ground! I wonder if it will be friends with me? Hello ground!

[u/takenpassword]

That one sorcerer at Kamar Taj who was crawling and struggling just to get incinerated by Wanda in Multiverse of Madness

[u/Moidahface → u/takenpassword]

Honestly amazed Minotaur guy got through that movie.

[u/its_worfin_time → u/takenpassword]

While we’re on the subject of the MCU, how bout the dudes in Hawkeye who got shrunk by a Pym arrow and then carried off to their deaths by an owl? They were just run of the mill crooks, they definitely didn’t deserve one of the most horrifying deaths imaginable

[u/BigCountry1182]

The cat in Boondock Saints

[u/HiddenTaco0227 → u/BigCountry1182]

"I'll shoot myself in the head, you can tell me that cat's name!!!"

[u/ChknShtOutfit → u/HiddenTaco0227]

"Skippy!"

"Aw, what color was he, bitch?"

[u/Halocandle → u/BigCountry1182]

The whole scene is comedic timing gold. Especially the way the characters scramble away from the table and one of them tries to climb a wall but rips off a decoration instead.

[u/bruzdnconfuzd → u/BigCountry1182]

“Is it dead?!”

“Oh my GOD!”

[u/Gyn0saurus]

Singing Telegram in Clue

[u/gbfk → u/Gyn0saurus]

It was integral to the plot. Otherwise it would just be one plus two plus one and not one plus one plus two plus one.

[u/Thirty_Helens_Agree → u/gbfk]

There were two shots that got the chandelier so that’s one plus two plus TWO plus one.

[u/largechild → u/gbfk]

Communism is just a red herring.

[u/Obfusc8er → u/Gyn0saurus]

Unnecessary? It was one of the biggest laughs in the movie.

[u/Stardustchaser → u/Obfusc8er]

Glad someone said it. I was riding the absurd wave of “who’s next to die and how ridiculously?” at that point when I watched as a kid, so yes I thought the telegram death was funny af.

[u/Rowan-Trees → u/Gyn0saurus]

That was Jane Weidlin from the Go-Go’s too :(

[u/xwhy → u/Rowan-Trees]

I don’t think I ever knew that. Thank you.

[u/herennius → u/xwhy]

Also Joan of Arc in Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure!

[u/JamieC1610 → u/Gyn0saurus]

She was Prof Plum's patient, so one of Mr Body's informants like the cop, motorist, cook and maid.

[u/Duardo_ → u/Gyn0saurus]

I. AM. Your singing telegram.

BOOM

[u/IvarSnow]

Father Beoccas wife in The Last Kindom

[u/RGJ587 → u/IvarSnow]

And for that matter, Father Beocca as well.

[u/Mission_Pineapple69]

That guy who sacrifices himself with the grenades in an attempt to kill the skulled snake things in Kong: skull island, but snakey just hits him into a Cliff and he go boom

[u/TabulaRasaT888 → u/Mission_Pineapple69]

Nah that was the best part of the movie

[u/Little_Hamlet]

Lots of innocents dying in the movie 2012, but the way they killed off the Russian oligarch’s trophy wife right at the end seemed harsh.

[u/Cash907 → u/Little_Hamlet]

Beat me to it. That part was complete bullshit, as the only reason she died was to save the stupid little girl. Keep in mind this was after the Chinese brother that got them onboard the ship AND the inept and annoying but not deserving of his fate new husband were senselessly killed. Was it not in the budget for those two to end up together in the end, which actually made sense, because there was no way Cusack would have been taken back by his ex otherwise?

[u/ElMatasiete7 → u/Cash907]

Lmao "sorry your SO just died brutally, can we get back together now?"

[u/Moidahface → u/Cash907]

Roland Emmerich movies just pander to the lowest common denominator and always end up having these really shallow, cruel moments to them.

[u/ohsinboi]

The latest Jurassic World movie had a bunch of rando citizens died horribly in Europe directly because of a decision made by a main character to let the dinosaurs spread throughout the world

[u/fatloui → u/ohsinboi]

There’s a shot where a guy in the background is running around, completely on fire, screaming, and then a dino just scoops him up. Hilarious.

[u/tythousand → u/ohsinboi]

The Jurassic World trilogy is so weird. It simultaneously paints the dinosaurs as good and bad even though they’re, for the most part, wild animals acting on instinct. And the “good” human characters prioritize dinosaur autonomy over human life even though there’s no logical reason to do so, since they’re obviously dangerous and an existential threat to humanity. They’re just weirdly-written movies and the human characters act nonsensically.

I know they’re meant to be dumb popcorn movies but they don’t have to be that dumb

[u/myowngalactus]

Donnie, not an extra but is an innocent in the plot of the movie The Big Lebowski

[u/theredblune → u/myowngalactus]

What was that shit about Vietnam!

[u/chadhindsley → u/myowngalactus]

Goodnight sweet prince

[u/misersoze]

Newt in Aliens 3

[u/sharrrper → u/misersoze]

And Hicks. Newt worse though. Like, we just kill off screen Ripleys entire motivation and heroic arc from the previous movie. Wtf? If we want to seperate Ripley from the previous movie's characters there's a million ways to do that without just murdering them.

[u/c0kEzz]

Woman with curlers in her hair in Halloween 2018. Just trying to make a nice sandwhich and Michael just walks in and annihilates her.

[u/Six_Pack_Attack → u/c0kEzz]

The Johns in Halloween Kills.

[u/Leafybug13]

Offing Jimmy Olsen in Batman v Superman

[u/Literally_-_Hitler]

Minor character not extra but it's Akira's friend/girlfriend when he is transforming at the end and accidentally crushes her out of nowhere.

[u/Klamageddon → u/Literally_-_Hitler]

Tetsuo's girlfriend, yeah. (Akira is actually barely in the film.)

[u/nomnaut → u/Klamageddon]

Kaori

[u/kleptophobiac → u/Literally_-_Hitler]

Good one. Freaked me out when I was younger. The way her face sort of distorts before she pops.

[u/Elman103 → u/Literally_-_Hitler]

He says something like I can feel her her pain. I think it’s that part.

[u/DoomGoober → u/Elman103]

Oh God, that line makes it so much worse.

In the Manga, Kaori tries to warn Tetsuo that someone is double crossing him, but she is killed. Tetsuo kills all the conspirators in revenge, then tries to resurrect Kaori using his powers (he fails). Later, Kaori's body is found preserved in Tetsuo chambers.

That's why the anime is so amazing. It captures Tetsuo's horror at Kaori's death in 1 line of dialog (where the Manga has an entire subplot to show how Tetsuo feels about her death.)

Different mediums and running times, but the manga is so well adapted to film.

[u/thepush]

How do Reavers clean their spears?

They run them through the Wash.

[u/Wessssss21 → u/thepush]

Too soon

[u/chadhindsley]

The random Geisha/Prostitute that gets shot in the forehead at the beginning of Pirates of the Caribbean 3

(Yes....this was a Disney film lol)

[u/Cowboywizard12 → u/chadhindsley]

I think the ten year old that gets hanged in the opening of the movie was probably even worse

[u/FranticPonE → u/Cowboywizard12]

First movie: (Older) kid friendly adventure with a very silly vibe

By the third movie: We hangin kids and visibly plugging people straight in the head now

What a weirdly dark turn

[u/lindle_kindle → u/FranticPonE]

I mean the opening to the second film has one poor sod getting his eye eaten out by a crow as he is screaming for his life.

[u/Insertusernamehere5]

The Wild Bunch, all the innocent people getting caught in the crossfire between the gang and the mexican army, with Ernest Borgnine grabbing that girl as a meat shield. Truly a merciless western

[u/gildorratner]

Normally I really hate this trope but No Country for Old Men handled it extremely well as they made these moments truly impactful and lasting.

Carla Jean Moss even functioning as something of an emotional climax for the film.

With that said the Dead Ewok in Return of the Jedi still takes the cake for unnecessary on-screen death.
R.I.P. Nanta may the force be with you, always!

[u/AndyKaufmanSentMe → u/gildorratner]

Carla Jean Moss even functioning as something of an emotional climax for the film.

Chigurh knows deep down that he's full of shit. Her words rattled him so hard that he couldn't even focus on the road.

"The coin don't have no say. It's just you."

[u/Riderz__of_Brohan → u/AndyKaufmanSentMe]

Chigurh is already rattled by the time he meets her. Look at how he taunts Carson but by the time he meets Carla Jean he’s basically mumbling

That is because in his mind he already lost before he met her. His whole world view is that things are not “his” fault, the sum of your actions led him to you, so begging for your life is useless

But he didn’t get the money “delivered to his feet” like he thought he would. He had to scurry in like a rat and hide from the police to get it (if he even got it - he does in the book but it’s ambiguous in the movie). It was a random act of chance that the Mexicans were there to kill Llewelyn. There is no need for him to go kill Carla, but he does anyway because he doesn’t know what else to do

Then Carla throws it back in his face - he is making decisions just like everyone else. He is not a passive participant or a natural consequence of someone’s actions, he is an active member of the universe trying to make order out of nothing. He MAKES the choice to kill her. This throws him off even more

The final nail is when the car hits him. They make a point to show that Chigurh had the green light. He did nothing wrong. Yet the cold, random, uncaring universe did not reward him for it.

This is why he’s so desperate to pay the kid for his shirt to tie up his wound. Paying means he has control over the situation, he isn’t at the mercy of the universe. When the kid offers to GIVE Anton his shirt it’s almost like he’s mocking him. Look, the universe is randomly giving you a gift due to nothing you did.

While he’s dazed there at the end from the car crash, with his bone sticking out of his arm, you can almost hear him telling himself the same thing that he taunted Carson with: “If the rule that you followed brought you to this; of what use was the rule?”

[u/GoatShapedDemon → u/Riderz__of_Brohan]

Love these sort of analytical posts. Thank you.

[u/butterflyp00n → u/AndyKaufmanSentMe]

I don't know what it is about that scene, but fuck, it gets me everytime. Carla Jean was such a bad ass

[u/HeavyMetalLyrics → u/gildorratner]

Undeserving people being affected by the meaninglessness of death is a central theme in No Country For Old Men

[u/PapuhBoie → u/gildorratner]

God dammit… when his little buddy tries to wake him up but can’t, and just sits down beside him dejectedly… gets me every time

[u/Butts_The_Musical]

Bryce Dallas Howard’s assistant in Jurassic World, she gets a more brutal death than the main antagonist

[u/ZcalifornianusSelkie]

Tommy Kinkle in Chilling Adventures of Sabrina. Murdered, made into a zombie, and ultimately soul-eaten, because he might have killed a familiar (which he thought was a deer and witches aren’t vegan). Bonus points: the witches who did that to him had not personal ties to the familiar and are never fully punished.

[u/PanicPixieDreamGirl → u/ZcalifornianusSelkie]

That was what made me stop watching. God it was so mean-spirited.

[u/AlfaHotelWhiskey]

Euro Trip - Scottie gets utterly massacred by the “Scottie Doesn’t Know” song.

[u/doyouevenoperatebrah → u/AlfaHotelWhiskey]

You think they had any idea they were making a classic when they filmed that movie?

[u/FinalRhyme_76 → u/AlfaHotelWhiskey]

I loved that movie so much

[u/Drama_Derp]

Lavinia in Titus (1999).

Tounge cut out, raped, has arms replaced with branches only to be killed by her father to save her from shame

[u/Moidahface → u/Drama_Derp]

What in the shitfucking fuck did I just read

[u/Snack_Boy → u/Moidahface]

Shakespeare

[u/tomtomclubthumb → u/Moidahface]

Titus is the film version of Titus Andronicus.

It's a ridiculously gory and over the top play. I don't think you are meant to take it seriously.

IT's based on a story from Ovid's Metamorphoses I think.

[u/Forward_Progress_83 → u/tomtomclubthumb]

Theatrical designer here. I worked on a production of it several years ago which led to my favourite all time audience moment.

So it’s first preview of the show, and I’m watching taking notes. The guy in front of me is clearly not a regular theatre patron. He’s pretty entranced all the way through the production.

We get to Lavina’s death and we had a character onstage with a single use water bottle hidden in his messenger bag. When Titus wrings Lavinia’s neck we had the actor squish the bottle to make a crunching sound. (Essentially a live foley effect)

Dude in front of me stands up, horrified and goes “what the fuck?!?” and looks around to see if anybody else is reacting the same way. Realizes it’s just part of the show, and slowly sits back down.

Took everything I had not to bust a gut laughing.

[u/kpc45]

dominic death in the banshees of insherin is one of the saddest innocent losses I’ve seen.

[u/Seedy-Ant → u/kpc45]

His father was also making fun of a person who walked into a lake. Also, the hook on a stick thing he was asking about in the beginning was used to drag him out So shocking and sad.

[u/kpc45 → u/Seedy-Ant]

Yep and the whole town thought he was dim because of his mannerisms but when he says “touché” we get a glimpse of more and when he talks to Siobhan right before is heartbreaking “well there goes that dream” goddamn what a movie.

[u/hurtloam → u/kpc45]

And the other one. I keep thinking the spoilers are going to be her!

[u/Radgeta → u/hurtloam]

I almost lost it when they show Jenny dead.

[u/NonComposMenthol]

The girl at the ice cream truck in the original Asssault on Precinct 13.

[u/crapusername47 → u/NonComposMenthol]

The little girl is Kim Richards who was in the Disney movies Escape to Witch Mountain and Return from Witch Mountain which my sister and I were big fans of when we were kids.

So, watching this, I’m thinking ‘oh, hey, it’s Tia’. Little did I know…

[u/Bibb5ter]

Eddie from JP: The Lost World. Died a hero tho

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[u/domestigatr → u/[deleted]]

Same and I know he wasn't innocent in the strictest definition of the word but OH MY GOD just let the poor boy enjoy the carnival

[u/danceofthedreamman89]

i know its a horrible movie, but the james bond movie “Moonraker” has a somewhat disturbing scene where the secretary of the main Bond baddie is ripped apart by a pack of Rottweilers. Its so different in tone from the rest of the movie and I legitimately felt bad for the character

[u/DrRexMorman → u/danceofthedreamman89]

Bond movies are always really cruel to the first Bond girl, but that one stands out as being particularly egregious.

Lana Wood’s character’s death in Diamonds are forever is pretty bad, too.

[u/bobpetersen55]

I know it was in the book technically, but Hedwig in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1.

[u/BleekerTheBard → u/bobpetersen55]

The book death is more brutal. She’s not doing anything heroic, she’s trapped in a cage shot dead by a stray spell and then moments later Harry has to blow her up.

[u/st6374]

I bet movies like Northman where they go on Pillaging the villages have a lot of side/innocent characters death.

Same with war crime movies like Platoon, where innocent civilians are massacred.

In terms of others... I guess the stadium bomb explosion in Sum of all fears killed more than 10k folks at the least.

[u/PasswordisP4ssword]

One of the hostages in Threat Level Midnight (2011) had a pretty gruesome death, though it was later revealed he was an animal rapist.

[u/EditorBobAndCo → u/PasswordisP4ssword]

By far the most expensive shot in the movie

[u/Garth-Vader]

Some civilians get shot during the train station shootout in the Untouchables. Seeing those sailors get shot made me sad.

[u/SpiritualMayonnaise]

2005 King Kong had some pretty horrendous unnecessary deaths.

[u/Milk_Mindless → u/SpiritualMayonnaise]

Lumpy the cook's is fucking terrifying

[u/JarJarJacobs]

Rant incoming, because I have to talk about Saw 3D: the "final" chapter. I'm sure even the most diehard Saw fans take issue with the particular death I'm talking about.

The whole movie we follow this asshole who lied about being a jigsaw victim. He wrote a book and got rich off of it, so now he's in a jigsaw game for real and has to injure himself to save the lives of his "enablers" (publicist, assistant, etc..).

Now- even though this movie is universally panned, the kills just get more and more gruesome as the film goes on. And that's great for a movie like this, because we want to see these horrible dickheads get ripped to shreds. We hope that the final trap, reserved for our awful "protagonist", is the most brutal of all. And we get our wish! ....sort of.

The final trap is the Brazen Bull. It's based on a real-life torture device, in which the victim is boiled alive inside a giant, metal bull. It's truly a horrific, agonizing way to die, and should be reserved for only the worst of humanity, like our main character... right?

Nope. It's his wife.

Yeah- his WIFE, who COMPLETELY believes his story and has had NOTHING to do with his schemes, is the final victim. The main guy obviously fails his test, and his TOTALLY INNOCENT WIFE gets burned alive before she even knows what's going on. I don't even think we see the main guy die at all. If i remember correctly, his "punishment" is just watching his wife die.

Now- there have been "questionable" kills in this franchise before. Hell, the last movie opened with a janitor getting killed for being a fucking SMOKER. But until this point, nobody has ever died for literally NO REASON. Family members have been kidnapped/held at gunpoint, people have been killed for being employed by a shitty company, but nobody has ever DIED over something they didn't know about. Until now.

I'm actually a defender of Saw 3D. I think it's the pinnacle of "so bad it's good" in the torture porn era. But good god, it is hard to have a good time with this movie when the ending is just so mean-spirited, nonsensical, and unsatisfying.

Phew.

[u/CuriousMelia → u/JarJarJacobs]

Yeah, this kill infuriated me when I watched the movie. I'm in the camp that didn't like 3D, although I liked the others up to that point personally. The innocent wife having arguably the most brutal death in the whole series (I guess the Rack is contending for that title) while her shitstain of a husband gets off just fine was its biggest issue. It was made worse by the fact that his wife's trap was unwinnable, so no matter what he did, she'd die. I know a big plot point of the sequels was Jigsaw's apprentices making some traps unwinnable despite it going against their leader's style, but this was by far the worst case. She did nothing wrong! Why did she deserve an unwinnable trap over her husband who caused all the problems?

[u/tenaciousDaniel]

Definitely Bob from Stranger Things S2. Like…why? WHY?!

[u/bozeke]

Basically everyone in A Clockwork Orange.