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CNN team robbed while working on story about street crime
https://www.pennlive.com/nation-world/2023/03/cnn-team-robbed-while-working-on-story-about-street-crime.html[removed] — view removed post
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u/straightouttasuburb 5d ago
They hired security guards to watch their stuff and still was robbed…
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u/AlwaysRealRADDish 5d ago
Yet, there was time to take a pic of the getaway vehicle?? Sounds like someone used Groupon to find their security…
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u/SilasX 5d ago
“Oh yeah, you’re with the Groupon package? That … only gets you our DGAF tier guards.”
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u/AlwaysRealRADDish 5d ago
“By the way, there’ll be an additional charge for the photography. If you’d like any digital &/or printed copies of the photos, just let our Groupon staff know how many & we’ll provide a quote!”
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u/MurphyAtLarge 5d ago
Well in SF even the police can’t chase them if they go over the speed limit. Anyways if they get caught then our judges just let them back out. It’s nuts. We just got a new aggressive DA but even they are failing. It’s tough.
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u/FriedWaffle714 5d ago
Security guards are just for security theater to act as deterrent against criminals.
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u/CantFindMyWallet 5d ago
Seems like just standing next to the car should have gotten the job done. What the hell were they doing?
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u/Zagzax 5d ago edited 5d ago
News crew security is usuall no joke. During the Floyd riots some dude tried to mace one of them and got smoked like a joint.
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u/ArrrGaming 5d ago
That's more "executive protection" than "security guard", though.
At that point you're basically hiring one or a very small number of mercenaries, not someone who is there to be seen so as to deter crime, and to call the police if a crime happens.
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u/SaxRohmer 5d ago
There was a guy (that was clearly former military) that disarmed a protestor that had pulled a gun out of a cop car during that same time. It definitely can vary but some of those guys are very serious
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u/ThisFreakinGuyHere 5d ago
That's TSA and retail security. Private security is supposed to be the real headcrackers, if you get the right guys.
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u/ElmentMusic 5d ago
I work for a news network
Our security fuckin sucks lol
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u/ThisFreakinGuyHere 5d ago
Gettin the wrong guys. You nerds need some of them rapper security.
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u/riptide81 5d ago
In SF they’d probably be the only ones in danger of getting arrested if they physically intervened.
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u/GammonBushFella 5d ago
Not to mention, these guys are probably paid sweet fuck all. Doubt it's enough to risk your own skin in any way.
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u/agreeingstorm9 5d ago
Private security a lot of times is a bunch of guys who tried to be cops but even the cops didn't want them. They tend to be very very super-macho type guys who are high on what little power they have. They will crack your skull in a heart beat just to make themselves feel like they have real power. I'd mess w/a cop before I messed with any armed private security.
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u/JerryKook 5d ago
Where were the security guards? Across the street in Starbucks?
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u/karstadtt 5d ago
Security is only as efficient as the law allows it to be. If you live in a state where violence is punished with prison but property crime is tolerated, their hands are bound.
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u/CantFindMyWallet 5d ago
You people are delusional if you think California law requires you to let someone smash the window on a car.
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u/Fanfics 5d ago
"Hand over your wallet and nobody gets hurt!"
"ok, but real quick could you tell us your full name, age, and what drove you to a life of crime?"
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u/SoUpInYa 5d ago
And fill lot this release form
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u/Babylegs_OHoulihan 5d ago
Two males who would identify themselves only as ‘Nah’ and ‘Stop asking me questions
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u/wearedoomed49 5d ago
You can have my cash, but first you know I gotta ask,
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u/TypicalJeepDriver 5d ago
He said there ain’t no rest for the wicked.
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u/randolphcherrypepper 5d ago
Money don't grow on trees, he continued.
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u/TypicalJeepDriver 5d ago
I got gills today, I’ve got moths to breed.
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u/Techjunk24 5d ago
Is this considered a method acting version of journalism?
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u/FundingImplied 5d ago
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u/TricksterPriestJace 5d ago
I am disappointed Gonzo journalism doesn't involve people being interviewed by a Muppet.
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u/AlwaysRealRADDish 5d ago
Haha perhaps…I guess it’s better than the amateur improv most “journalists” seem to utilize these days.
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u/cofcof420 5d ago
Happened right outside city hall in broad daylight. Pure craziness
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u/Hallowbrand 5d ago
I live nearby, they parked next to city hall iirc which is next to a shelter that houses 500 homeless people 80% of which are hard substance users according to the director that I’ve talked to. They should have used one of the numerous parking garages. Car crime is fucked right now.
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u/PotatoSalad 5d ago
You think those homeless people had a black Infiniti like the article describes?
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u/cofcof420 5d ago
Is it only if you have a bag in your car or they’ll smash for anything? I’ve heard some folks leave their cars unlocked and empty for that reason
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u/GuineaPigBikini 5d ago
My friend lives in the bay area and said someone broke into his car for some pillows once
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u/ADarwinAward 5d ago edited 5d ago
What’s crazy is this isn’t even new really, though the overall increase in theft is recent. SF City hall area has been a shit hole for a long time. It’s a block away from one of the worst neighborhoods in the city, the Tenderloin.
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u/BePart2 5d ago
Of course it’s San Francisco lol
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u/K1lledByAmerica 5d ago
San Francisco sure has changed a bunch since its Full House days
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u/k4tertots 5d ago
SF in the 90s was stellar.
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u/nicelyroasted 5d ago
Highest crime and murder rate of the 1900s, but go off
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u/xenonnsmb 5d ago
im amazed at people's ability to selectively remember the past. no, there wasn't less crime in the 90s, you just weren't being exposed to it on your phone 24/7
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u/excelllentquestion 5d ago
Its literally lower now than ever. Well besides 2020 lockdown when no one was out. Still high but lowest in SF history.
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u/old_gold_mountain 5d ago
the per-capita murder rate in San Francisco was twice as high in 1995 as it was in 2022
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u/sean_macktruck 5d ago
Was just traveling through the bay area last week and my rental car was broken into and our backpacks were stolen. Wish I would have known beforehand that it was such an issue. The cops said sometimes they specifically target rental cars because you can identify one with the sticker on the windshield
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u/myotheraccountiscuck 5d ago
Wish I would have known beforehand that it was such an issue.
How's life been under your rock?
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u/sean_macktruck 5d ago
I don't keep up on bay area news, since I don't live in or around California. Thank you for your very sincere concern
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u/PinkSlipstitch 5d ago
Have you heard of the glitter bomb guy, Mark Rober? He did a version with car break ins in San Fran.
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u/A_Light_Spark 5d ago
"We are the most progressive city in the world!"
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u/TheWorldisFullofWar 5d ago
Progressive when it comes to letting criminals off free yet conservative when it comes to housing, corporate responsibility, and transportation. Worst of both worlds.
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u/OldKingRob 5d ago
but the crooks pulled away in a black Infiniti
Have they seen the way normal Infiniti drivers are? Now imagine one fleeing the scene of a crime they just committed
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u/NeverTrustATurtle 5d ago
I guess they never studied under the tutelage of JJ Bittenbinder’ Street Smarts Course
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u/Fondren_Richmond 5d ago
He was a man most acquainted with misery. He could look at a child and guess the price of their coffin.
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u/AnnoyedVelociraptor 5d ago
If you arrest people and let them go immediately what's the deterrent?
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u/smoothout 5d ago
Actually, of all the various theories of crime causation and mitigation the ONE (count em, ONE) repeatable and demonstrable thing we know about lowering crime rates is they go down as the perceived odds of being caught and receiving SOME punishment go up. So any time anyone proposes anything that reduces the odds of getting caught committing a crime or receiving any punishment at all for the crime you can expect the crime rate to go up.
Source- criminal justice degree that was worthless except to give me depression
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u/Xalimata 5d ago
That's why the War on Drugs was such a success! Just make life as shitty as possible for people who have a small amount of drugs and poof! Its all better now.
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u/SaxRohmer 5d ago
There’s a huge diminishing return on that as well and most criminals also do not expect to get caught. We have the largest prison population on the planet and an insanely high recidivism rate. There should be consequences but we also don’t give people the tools to actually build a life and become “productive members of society” once they’re released
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u/sluuuurp 5d ago
Or just lock them away forever (at least after many repeat offenses). If you really care about nothing and continue to cause destruction, there’s no hope for you and you’re not deserving of living in a civilized society.
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u/SDdude81 5d ago
Crime is absolutely going up in San Francisco because their is no punishment. The simplest explanation is that a person can't commit a crime if they're in jail
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u/SaxRohmer 5d ago
Sounds like a good recipe to just have a revolving door. We don’t do anything to reform criminals or address any of the systemic issues. People committing crimes like theft I’m guessing largely are not financially secure and are looking to make money. Having a record makes finding gainful employment more difficult in a big way - how do you expect someone to build a new life after going through our justice system?
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u/WillTheGreat 5d ago
Crime is absolutely going up in San Francisco because their is no punishment. The simplest explanation is that a person can't commit a crime if they're in jail
Yeah I really don't understand the better life argument because anyone whose from SF Bay Area and has seen this shit happening and sees the type of people who commit these kinda crimes. They're not homeless, they're not "struggling", they're people who see easy opportunities to commit a crime that has very little risk to them. 90% of the videos of smash and grabs, or snatch and grabs, or armed robberies...these dudes are decked out in new Jordans, BAPE, designed jeans, etc in high end getaway cars. You can make the case everything I listed is stolen, but man what the fuck are the odds that every single thing was stolen for everyone single one of them? Even if they were stolen, look at where the priorities are. It's not a homeless guy stealing food, stealing groceries, stealing essential home goods.
I get that there are people struggling due to displacement and rising cost of living, but these people are not that and the spike in petty crime is a clear lack of deterrence.
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u/R_Morley 5d ago
I feel like that may be (partially) true for petty crime but definitely does not apply to major crimes. Murder for example. Or rape.
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u/Malphos101 5d ago
"It may work for the type of crime that makes up 95% of all crime, but it wont work for the super rare crime and therefore it isn't worth trying."
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u/SilasX 5d ago
Or white collar fraud like the Elizabeth Holmeses and SBFs of the world.
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u/Pathetian 5d ago
Deterrents absolutely work for 99% of people. The beautiful thing about jailing people is that it's a deterrent and separates repeat offenders from future victims.
If it was all about quality of life, middle and upper class people wouldn't commit any crime, but they still do.
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u/Warmduscher1876 5d ago
The deterrent is the court trial and sentencing afterwards? Just because they don't keep you until the trial doesn't mean there's no consequence. Also, how is the situation any different when their grandma bails them out to remain free until trial instead?
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u/DogsPlan 5d ago
Not robbed, it’s burglary.
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u/chiliedogg 5d ago
Vehicle burglary has its own category, because it's trespassing in a vehicle combined with theft
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u/InkBlotSam 5d ago
Anyone who leaves their passport in their car, for any amount of time, is an idiot.
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u/OurSocietyBottomText 5d ago
This comment screams of someone living somewhere that has accepted crime and accepting their life going poorly
Don't think millions of Scandinavians are idiots for leaving their babies alone in the stroller outside sleeping.
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u/Hallowbrand 5d ago
I live nearby, they parked next to city hall iirc which is next to a shelter that houses 500 homeless people in two apartment 80% of which are hard substance users according to the director that I’ve talked to. They should have used one of the numerous parking garages.
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u/Phillipwnd 5d ago
My town has had a lot of recent reports of people having their wallets stolen out of their cars, some parked overnight.
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u/-MolonLabe- 5d ago
Reminds me of the World Series of Dice.
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u/lookitsaustin 5d ago
Scrolling this far down is what makes me believe that Reddit is full of young people. Lol. That was the first thing I thought of too.
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u/Electric_Wizard84 5d ago
Reporter:”So, Mr. Jenkins, they say that this neighborhood is bad. Can you shed some light on the problems here?”
Jenkins: cocks hammer back “First of all, my name is Leeroy, and second of all I need your phone and wallet.”
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u/Economics_Troll 5d ago
Of course it’s San Francisco.
Here I am waiting on Reddit folks that maintain crime isn’t a problem in the city, governmental policy on crime there is fine, and is no worse than it was in the past.
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u/CurrentlyLucid 5d ago
Just do yourselves a favor, stay out of SF and Oakland, they are both pits these days.
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u/cheesehuahuas 5d ago
Does someone have a source explaining why crime is so bad in San Francisco that isn't overly politicized?
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u/excelllentquestion 5d ago
Violent crimes are at their lowest for decades (besides 2020 lockdown).
Larceny is def up over the last 5 years.
Other crimes like burglary and car theft are a bit higher than 5 years ago.
Really, theres a fuckton of contributing factors.
We had a particularly crappy DA that basically made it impossible to prosecute anything besides violent crimes. So cops and people just kinda gave up trying.
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Seems like they were burgled, not robbed. Sounds like semantics, but there’s a big difference.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Might65 5d ago
robbed in the shithole that is san francisco. what a surprise
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u/luckylebron 5d ago
I've wondered about something like this happening to news reporters in dicey neighborhoods.
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u/Stratocast7 5d ago
"Lah worried she wouldn’t be able to fly back to her home base in L.A. because her identification was in one of the stolen bags"
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u/KittenStapler 5d ago
Haven't opened the article yet, but I'm gonna assume this was in San Francisco.
. . . Yep
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u/PsychePsyche 5d ago
They get away with this because the SFPD is a combination of inept and corrupt.
Inept: Got catalytic converters stolen off of squad cars
Corrupt: Refused to help breakup a theft ring just like this one as they were engaged in a work stoppage to make the previous DA look bad I personally supported a lot of the previous DAs policies but he was wayyyy too much of a rookie firebrand trying to make a name for himself rather than doing the full job of DA entails. Regardless, crime has spiked even more after his recall, which means it wasn’t his policies causing or exacerbating crime.
Now there’s a shitload of other factors too, like insane economic pressures from the bay areas cost of living, the police commission banning high speed chases (so crooks just start driving recklessly if a cop chases them for low level crimes, but they’ll still chase for violent crimes), SF housing being unaffordable for anyone but FAANG engineers means that the people who might become cops can’t live here, causing a hiring crunch, the list goes on and on and on
It’s why I bang away on housing so much, because all the rest of our problems flow from that.
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u/HerrKrinkle 5d ago
That first link. It's... It's amazing. So glad I left SF when I did.
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u/wehappy3 5d ago
IMO it's the second thing that's more or less happening now. The car burglary like in the article isn't tweakers, it's organized crime. The cops need to find the hydra and cut off the head, so to speak. People like to bitch about California's and San Francisco's liberal policies causing this, and while I agree that they're causing other crime issues, this is straight up organized crime that the cops are refusing to address/investigate. It's so, so corrupt and fucked.
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u/ZomBioHacker 5d ago
I bet they were a minority demographic.
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u/n0tn0rmal 5d ago
Dude!! You know the rules of Reddit! You only can say bad things about white people from the US.
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u/halcy0n_ 5d ago
This is like the Car Wash Change Thief Action Squad getting their change stolen while filling a reenactment of Car Wash Change Theft.
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u/varabdel 5d ago
God damn you know San Fransisco is a shithole when even I as a non-American read the headline and thought "It was San Fransisco wasn't it?"
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u/Big_Mitch_Baker 5d ago
Now they're a primary source