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Mark Zuckerberg: The Metaverse will unfold in 3 steps, and one is happening ‘sooner than I thought’ Business

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/21/mark-zuckerberg-fitness-apps-will-contribute-to-the-metaverse-soon.html
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u/Koda487 Sep 24 '22 edited Sep 24 '22

Is the third, bankruptcy?

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u/UnrulySasquatch1 Sep 24 '22

2nd actually.

3rd is when someone else picks it up and does it right while respecting privacy

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u/zbyte64 Sep 24 '22 edited Sep 24 '22

Step 4 is rolling back privacy to make money for shareholders, then we go back to step 1....

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u/ender23 Sep 24 '22

4.... Repeat steps one two threeeeeee

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u/mellofello808 Sep 24 '22

They already made second life, and we have moved on.

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u/nox66 Sep 25 '22

Haven't yet ever wanted to play second life but instead of a game, you're doing work meetings or buying car insurance?

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u/IamMarcJacobs Sep 24 '22

Lol 3 will Never happen

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u/Hannibal254 Sep 24 '22

Step 1: ridicule and disinterest Step 2: ???? Step 3: profit

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u/Nukegm426 Sep 24 '22

Step 2: Zuckerbergs personal wealth being down 71 billion… yep that steps complete lol

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u/Routman Sep 24 '22

Dude has never pioneered anything successfully, just stolen other’s ideas and sometimes implemented them better. He should not be predicting any future tech

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u/WhyLisaWhy Sep 24 '22

I've always been curious if he's actually any good at coding or just a good business man. I know some of the early Facebook PHP is kind of sus but you have to give it the benefit of the doubt because it was written before 2007. My stuff that I had working in IE6/7/8 back then was hot garbage.

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u/substandardgaussian Sep 24 '22

"Good at coding" doesn't really matter...

I say this as a software engineer who wishes that weren't true. Sure, crap code causes bugs, instability, rigidity that makes it difficult to change things, etc:.

At the end of it all, though, the question is whether you're providing something that users/customers want and whether you can earn money off of it. Solid code is entirely subordinate to the business goal. If you can prove something works with awful code, that's fine... for now. Maybe.

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u/ChemicalRascal Sep 24 '22

It takes actual skill to get a minimum viable product together, suss or not. Maybe some elements of it were totally bent out of shape, but it was clearly usable and stable, with a not-garbage ui.

Yeah, that doesn't make him a god tier engineer or anything, but it's difficult to be bad and also achieve that.

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u/spektrol Sep 24 '22

Their motto from the beginning has always been “move fast and break things” - which you can say is dumb but it’s also been adopted by basically every tech startup since then. If you release too late, or over-engineer your product before gathering user feedback, you’re wasting runway.

That’s what people kind of miss with the whole Metaverse thing. They’re trying to be first to market here, and yeah it’ll probably suck at first. But now they don’t have to worry about that because they have the manpower and funding to fix it and iterate, they’re basically releasing a proof of concept into the wild just to say “we did it first”. There are definitely downsides to being first to market (competitors can learn from your mistakes and release something better, etc), but with something as complex as this, they’re not worried about that. No one else has the manpower they do that also cares about this type of product (only ones would be Google, but they don’t care, for now).

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u/ramore369 Sep 24 '22

Along with rejection and denial

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u/LionMcTastic Sep 24 '22

I assumed he meant "collapse"

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u/bbbruh57 Sep 24 '22

Tbf almost all wildly new ideas have this happen, however at the core there should be a small group of people who get it that love it. And theyre all on VR Chat, not meta. So youre right, but in its own its not a sign. The real issue is that you cant find people who want this shit

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u/codeslave Sep 24 '22

What, you don't want your work and personal lives seamlessly blended into a single data stream for Zuckerberg to feast upon?

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u/RosaPalms Sep 24 '22 edited Sep 24 '22

Black Mirror already did it nearly a decade ago. And they treated it as the dystopian horseshit that it was.

Edit: I'm talking about Meta being dystopian, not Peloton.

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u/FeculentUtopia Sep 24 '22

I'd rather ride the bike than stand around all day pulling on a gloobleyank.

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u/CaptZ Sep 24 '22 Wholesome Seal of Approval

It's more fun if have someone else pull on your gloobleyank.

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u/JBNYINK Sep 24 '22

It's like actually riding a bike, with extra... Steps.

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u/slammerbar Sep 24 '22

I’d rather yank a Flooblecrank to be honest.

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u/jakinatorctc Sep 24 '22

Watching a video of someone biking on a trail while you bike indoors is literally Black Mirror

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u/G0LDI_L0CKS Sep 24 '22

You're going to lose your mind when you learn about zwift and smart trainers then. Its a great way to keep your fitness through the winter.

Also. I dont know a single cyclist that would put on a vr headset to train. There's already so much sweat that you have to wash your bike so it doesn't get corroded. A headset wouldn't survive.

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u/MacroFlash Sep 24 '22

I thought the same thing when they ran that Meta biking commercial. With my current stationary bike I can barely keep the sweat out of my eyes as it is lol.

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u/waffleeee Sep 24 '22

No joke. I use zwift to train... There's no fucking way I'm wearing a headset while sweat is pouring out of me.

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u/ironoctopus Sep 24 '22

Yeah, until these headsets are capably of being miniaturized into something like wrap-around sunglasses, they aren't going to be anything more than a novelty for serious exercise use cases.

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u/LairdPopkin Sep 24 '22

People were doing VR and videos of outdoor biking on exercise bikes decades before Black Mirror. It’s an effective way of keeping people engaged and exercising.

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u/Southside_john Sep 24 '22

These people make it out to be totally crazy but when you live in Chicago and it’s February it’s not like you can just go on a daily ride through the mountains

Edit: just while watching a screen. I’m not sweating all over a vr headset

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u/ImpulseCombustion Sep 24 '22

Rollers in front of the TV. Revolutionary.

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u/hexydes Sep 24 '22 edited Sep 25 '22

I recall watching some sitcom in the 80s where they had an exercise bike with a big projector screen of someone riding on a trail. Silver Spoons maybe? This is not a new idea at all.

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u/luc1dmach1n3 Sep 24 '22

Also one of the experiments done on vault dwellers in Fallout.

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u/Ok_Skill_1195 Sep 24 '22

Pelaton's subscription model is also pretty dystopian, to be fair

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u/Badassdinosaur5 Sep 24 '22

I am actually not really that sure if it is though... I don't even want to imagine how filthy it would be riding a bicycle for like 30 minutes at a high pace while having a heavy VR headset on you.

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u/ImOnTheLoo Sep 24 '22

That’s my first thought. I use a program called Zwift for indoor cycling, which is popular in the cycling community. And the amount of thought that goes into putting fans in the right place is important because you sweat terribly! Adding goggles will just be gross after a while.

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u/MrJetSetLife Sep 24 '22

A while being 3 minutes

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u/ContractTrue6613 Sep 24 '22

You sweat just wearing a vr set playing pov games.

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u/TylerBourbon Sep 24 '22

This is a HUGE reason as to why I don't think VR and even AR will really be viable until headsets are as comfortable to wear for extended periods of time as sunglasses are.

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u/czmax Sep 24 '22

Headsets as comfortable as sunglasses is the obvious outcome of the technical progression.

I think we need to evaluate the potential of “meta-verse” with that in mind.

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u/dick_slap Sep 24 '22 edited Sep 24 '22

You're going against the hivemind (and I agree with you). Sorry everyone, but adoption of VR and AR is only going to increase and Meta have positioned themselves.

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u/Bootcoochwaffle Sep 24 '22

It will increase. Absolutely

But the question is how far out we are.

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u/SirNo8100 Sep 24 '22

This is going to turn into some version of "They Live"

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u/CarthageForever Sep 24 '22
  1. Create the Metaverse.
  2. ???
  3. Profit

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u/randynumbergenerator Sep 24 '22
  1. ??? <--- you are here
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u/ICLazeru Sep 24 '22

Why is there so much talk about this? It just looks like an inferior version of VR chat.

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u/Infinityand1089 Sep 24 '22 Helpful

Because we also get to watch an out-of-touch billionaire throw away his fortune on it.

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u/bdrumev Sep 24 '22

As Sun Tsu said: "Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake!"

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u/Nonanonymousnow Sep 24 '22

It can't happen soon enough... But only if Facebook dies with his wealth.

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u/siphillis Sep 24 '22

He's betting the company on the metaverse because Facebook is dying.

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u/GUMBYtheOG Sep 25 '22

It’s dying because all of its current users are dying from old age.

Jokes aside, crazy how Facebook was cool in 2006 and then 10 years later all I see are crazy relatives posting right wing rants. It made me hate people I previously was I different about.

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u/siphillis Sep 25 '22

You joke, but that's actually the concern here. Facebook can't appeal to a younger audience, so their existing userbase is temporal. We saw how that affected AOL, who now largely survives off of elderly users who haven't cancelled their "Gold" subscription because they don't know how.

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u/GUMBYtheOG Sep 25 '22

I think the biggest revelation is not so much attracting users but that the novelty of online communication is not as interesting. In the early 2000’s it so cool when texting came out, and then AIM, and then MySpace it got progressively more connected and then it turned into a place for advertising/influencing and people to force their fucked up opinions on the world.

At least on Reddit I don’t know it’s uncle Joe on r/conservative advocating for authoritarian rule. Or a person I used to admired telling people to subscribe to their OF

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u/Woodit Sep 24 '22

It’ll just get bought by NewsCorp

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u/dumpyduluth Sep 24 '22

They did a great job with myspace

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u/Bobone2121 Sep 24 '22

MySpace: was I good? GOD: No... you were the Best.

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u/eeyore134 Sep 24 '22

Because he's trying to reach people who have barely any knowledge about VR, much less the games that exist within it. This isn't for people who know that Second Life was doing this 20 years ago. It's for the people that still use Facebook for more than keeping up with family or as a necessity for advertising. That's who made him the bulk of his money and it's who he'll keep aiming everything at. The lowest common denominator. You can see that in action with the Oculus as well.

There's something to be said for making things mainstream, it makes money and reaches a wider audience. But when you try to do it while also doing your best to screw over options for people who are enthusiasts and beyond the quality that you are offering people who don't know any better... well, that just sucks and it does nothing but hold back the tech.

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u/KeyPop7800 Sep 24 '22

But they're not even doing a good job at reaching those people. They must have the worst PR team. They're terrible at articulating how metaverse would realistically fit into anyone's daily life, beyond cheesy video games. All of their screenshots looks like a Kmart version of Wii games, even when they're pitching supposedly professional enterprise tools.

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u/notquitesolid Sep 24 '22

Not only that but they are taking everything that’s fun about virtual worlds and trying to control every aspect of it. Generic terrible avatars, sterile environments, what’s the point? Also those work scenarios meta is trying to make a thing has already been tried in second life. I remember reading articles about companies, colleges, even the federal government trying to have interactive locations you could visit. What happened was trolls and griefers loved to target these spaces and always found a way to sabotage any event that was scheduled. The most well publicized incident I heard of was when an interview for cnet got trolled with a bunch of flying dicks.

I am certain that meta will have the same problems. If it’s something people made, it’s something that people can break.

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u/IDoCodingStuffs Sep 24 '22

trying to control every aspect of it

That's part of their angle i.e. "we can offer virtual spaces with reasonable restrictions and good moderation to conduct business". Except it's really hard to believe when they can't even moderate Facebook for a start.

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u/notquitesolid Sep 24 '22

I used to be really active on second life. Apparently it’s still around too. The peak number of this year is 55,737 users (of people who were logged in at once). Of all time it was 88,220 on March 29, 2009. In comparison the highest vr chat has reached was back in January with 42,493 users online. I don’t think they’re quite the same, but VR chat is probably the closest this generation has to be exposed to a world like second life, even if it lacks customization.

I think second life would be more popular today if it didn’t sell so much virtual reality estate. I haven’t checked it out in years but the last time I was there most of it felt completely empty. Some of the art islands left behind are pretty awesome and clever. That’s mainly what I liked doing there. Met some interesting people who were trying to create virtual art, some were in college and one was doing her masters thesis on art and virtual environments. Her ‘show’ was a surreal journey that took up the whole island that you could walk.

Last I looked the most populated areas were the sex islands. Not even the weird ones like that bestiality island where if you let a certain statue virtually fuck you, you’d get ‘pregnant’ and sent a really cool looking moving baby dragon. You could either wear or let hang out in your environment if you had one. Nah, i’m sure there’s some people still doing some interesting stuff out in that virtual world but… yeah.

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u/notquitesolid Sep 24 '22

I dunno… would anyone want to watch those bobble headed soulless avatars fuck?

I mean outside of the novelty of it.

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u/eeyore134 Sep 24 '22

You might want to check out Occupy White Walls if you haven't. It's kinda Second-Lifey with an emphasis on making your own art gallery.

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u/The_Day_Is_Saturday Sep 24 '22

I literally bought my Quest 2 for VR porn.

It’s the only thing I use it for. I don’t even play games.

Say what you want about Facebook and Meta but they’ve laid down the foundation to actually revolutionary porn.

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u/mollila Sep 24 '22

Hasn't porn always been the frontrunner. Now, tell us how it was?

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u/kgalliso Sep 24 '22

May i also recommend beat saber

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u/wongo Sep 24 '22

Oh he's beating his saber all right

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u/moosemasher Sep 24 '22

Sounds like he's on Meat Saber

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u/Incognit0Bandit0 Sep 24 '22

Step 1: Everyone hates Facebook

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u/Clozee_Tribe_Kale Sep 24 '22

Except my grandparents but they'll probably die in the next five years and don't use VR but cows do sometimes to simulate green fields.

Wait.

Is step two simulating for my grandparents living at home when they are actually in a shitty nursing home?

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u/Incognit0Bandit0 Sep 24 '22

See:futurama

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u/siphillis Sep 24 '22

That's probably a huge reason why he's having so much trouble. Facebook (or Meta, whatever) is an atrocious brand that people have come to barely tolerate, not a boutique tech vendor whose products people are climbing over each other to buy. They're not Apple or even Microsoft. They're a shitty company that makes shit products whose only genuine selling-point is that they're free and popular. VR headsets aren't either of those things.

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u/deepsea333 Sep 24 '22

Step 2: collect underpants

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u/DonManuel Sep 24 '22

It's funny how he dreams of Peloton, when their hype lasted for exactly the pandemic and is already over again. Also no word why he really thinks to be able to be more successful than Linden with Second Life. I guess the day has arrived when "fake it till you make it" stops working for creepy boy.

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u/beer_bukkake Sep 24 '22

He is detached from reality and surrounded by yes people who sold out for $$$. No one wants to tell the naked emperor his meta verse sucks.

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u/SeVenMadRaBBits Sep 24 '22

I volunteer to be one of the people who lie and telll him yes for money while watching his company crumble.

Zuck: does my hair look cool?

Me: yes

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u/munk_e_man Sep 24 '22

"You look even more like Data than usual, sir."

"Yes, data, I love it."

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u/itwasquiteawhileago Sep 24 '22

Data had a lot more success at being human.

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u/PaleInTexas Sep 24 '22

Zuck: Does my facial expression say "I'm human"?

Me: Sure does.

You know what.. I can do this. Hit me up if you need a colleague.

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u/PHATsakk43 Sep 24 '22

We should smoke some meats together.

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u/YiddishMcSquidish Sep 24 '22

We out here smokin meats

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u/jyzenbok Sep 24 '22

Is pelaton not still popular? My wife still does it religiously at home and prefers it to gym classes.

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u/howdoyouknowman Sep 24 '22

Stock went way down and IIRC they stopped making the actual bike.

Edit: https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/peloton-stop-making-bikes-treadmills-86665517

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u/CMDR_KingErvin Sep 24 '22

The problem with peloton isn’t even the very expensive bikes. In fact I think the bikes are actually pretty well priced compared to other brands. The problem is the ongoing expensive subscription service you have to use if you want the thing to actually work. It’s such a closed system that it’s useless without an ongoing money sink. They don’t even open up the system so you can use other apps like Netflix or whatever you want. Nope, you HAVE to use their stuff.

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u/YiddishMcSquidish Sep 24 '22

Now they have a $3,000 rowing machine.

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u/comicshopgrl Sep 24 '22

It's not. There are so many for sale on FB Marketplace now. It has definitely died out.

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u/bellendhunter Sep 24 '22

Even without the pandemic it’s objectively a bad product. You can achieve the same with a good bike and an iPad Pro 12.9. And with that option you get an iPad included.

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u/greenrock Sep 24 '22

Yea i bought a 200 dollar bike and threw a tablet on it, love it just throw on a movie and im good for an hour

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u/lolexecs Sep 24 '22

Perhaps one of the most important comments in the entire thread:

no word why he really thinks to be able to be more successful than Linden with Second Life

Absolutely. If the goal and objective is to monetize everyone by getting them all to join Meta's walled garden or metaverse and data mining their behaviour to both track and shape preferences. The crucial bit that's missing is the strategy -- or as you point out -- what are they going to do that Linden lab, et al, didn't do?

However, what if that's not what they're shooting for?

What if the point is not to build out a world that people can vr-googly, goggle eye into, but to build out a platform for creating metaverse applications.

To wit, Facebook/meta provides the foundation (and maybe the tools) that users and organizations can use to create their offerings on top of their platform. Similar to what roblox is doing, or apple did with the iPhone and app store. And of course, much like Apple and their massive in-app commission scheme, I'm sure facebook/meta are eyeing the transaction platform as the best way to capture fees.

But again, your question comes up.

Why would FB/M be any better than the platform players?

Could Roblox make the leap from being a kids' game to becoming a more generic business platform? (Truth is prob not). Or, what about players in the current platform like AWS. Amazon and Microsoft have both proven themselves to be strong fast followers. They see something that's got cool vibes and market cachet. Then they offer an enterprise search, graph database, or something else that can drive the original offer to ruin.

Anyhow, great comment!

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u/DrEnter Sep 24 '22

They aren’t going to make the crucial mistake Linden made: Legs. No legs = success for Meta!

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u/worthwhilewrongdoing Sep 24 '22 edited Sep 24 '22

No body = no sex. That's what it comes down to, ultimately.

Facebook is scared of having Meta's walled garden host a BDSM gay furry orgy or whatever people did or still do on Second Life these days.

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u/Rpanich Sep 24 '22

It feels like the check has come due for the world:

I really hope that in like 2 years, Zuckerberg, Putin, and Trump all finally get what’s coming to them.

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u/QuickAltTab Sep 24 '22

Don't hold your breath, gaetz has far less resources than them and seems to be getting away with sex trafficking of a minor

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u/Freshies00 Sep 24 '22

Can we please throw Ellison Bezos and Musk into that group?

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u/protonmagnate Sep 24 '22

For a second I was like who tf is Ellison Bezos

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u/PaleInTexas Sep 24 '22

A super villain. A rich southafricornian "tech mogul" turned "phallus shaped anything" enthusiast who will do whatever it takes to look cool.

No matter the cost.

Super villain sized yacht? ✔️

Waste 10s of billions on a tech company to win arguments? ✔️

Dick shaped rockets sent into space? ✔️

No matter the cost!!

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u/Derigiberble Sep 24 '22

Theil as well.

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u/Compoundwyrds Sep 24 '22

They’re doing literally everything they can under the sun to avoid holding the bag, see the entire saga of Elon attempting to buy Twitter and then swerving to avoid it when the deal went sour.

I think these guys are going to derail the US government in 2024 to escape the financial and in some cases the legal consequences of their actions.

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u/VladyPoopin Sep 24 '22

Lmao… he’s bankrupting the company. And it’s glorious.

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u/extra_specticles Sep 24 '22

Zuckerberg can fuck right off.

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u/mouserat_hat Sep 24 '22 Silver Helpful Take My Energy

Everyone can Fuck Off!!! Just fuckem! Much love everyone. Have an fucking awesome weekend!!

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u/demonsneeze Sep 24 '22

This chaos energy is exactly what I need for a Saturday at work

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u/Theresabearintheboat Sep 24 '22

Waiter, I'll have two of whatever this guy is having.

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u/DerpDaDuck3751 Sep 24 '22

Slams down newspaper

I’ll order thrice as more

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u/ILOVESHITTINGMYPANTS Sep 24 '22

Hell yeah man, I agree. Have a great weekend!

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u/Iguphobia Sep 24 '22

You, not ironically, must be fun at parties. Have a good one, mate!

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u/LambBrainz Sep 24 '22

Fuckerberg?

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u/cleuseau Sep 24 '22

Nobody cared about Second Life. Nobody cares about Fuckerberg stolen Metaverse where even the name is stolen.

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u/beer_bukkake Sep 24 '22

What has he done that he didn’t steal? Honest question.

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u/ThatGuy48039 Sep 24 '22

I was gonna say “his wife!” until I realized just how wrong I was…

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u/Morty_A2666 Sep 24 '22
  1. Hype
  2. Excitement
  3. Denial

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u/Ornery_Translator285 Sep 24 '22

The ZUC system

Z- zealously..purchase shit

U- unveil

C- cry

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u/DrNukes Sep 24 '22

Zuckerberg talks about the Metaverse like Putin talks about the invasion.

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u/Rusalka-rusalka Sep 24 '22

In the article they report him saying that he wants media to be more immersive and less distinguishable from reality, which is kind of horrifying as if some people can tell the difference now anyway.

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u/hbprof Sep 24 '22

Yeah my thought upon reading that was "Why?"

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u/SidewaysFancyPrance Sep 24 '22

It's much easier to manipulate users into doing what you want. Pretty sure half of the point of VR is so users are more invested in their session and are less likely to just walk away, having a higher threshold for annoying ads/etc. If you feel like it's real life, you don't think you can just put it down and do something else.

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u/hbprof Sep 24 '22

Right. My "Why" is rhetorical.

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u/Asleep_Onion Sep 24 '22

I hate to come to the defense of Zuckerberg here, but I don't think he meant the word "media" to specifically mean "news media", like you seem to be interpreting the word.

I think he meant it more in the traditional sense of the word, meaning music, games, art, video, etc.

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u/santichrist Sep 24 '22

The first step was everyone being underwhelmed

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u/takanakasan Sep 24 '22

What is so funny to me is that small indie dev teams have made more fun and realistic graphics for their headset, and then Zuck's big reveal is Mii from 2006 in front of clip art of the Eiffel Tower.

Like, compare that screenshot to Half Life Alyx. It's fucking hilarious.

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u/phatklan Sep 24 '22

Nobody cares

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u/fourtwenty_666 Sep 24 '22

OP sure does. Their entire account revolves around the metaverse

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u/takanakasan Sep 24 '22

Almost certainly a PR account then

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u/fhcbncf Sep 24 '22 Gold Wholesome

I care. I want to watch it fail. I want zuck to lose it all

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u/Zaltt Sep 24 '22

I agree. He's only copied everyone his entire life the one time he tries to be innovative I want to see him fail

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u/stryptos Sep 24 '22

He's just paying other people to innovate for him at this stage

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u/PHATsakk43 Sep 24 '22

Hell, this isn’t innovative.

It’s Second Life using a VR platform he purchased.

Everyone is already tired of virtual meetings, nearly all of them at my company are now “video off/audio only”, the last thing we want is a more immersive virtual meeting experience.

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u/faaace Sep 24 '22

To be fair he stole this shit from Epic games and google. Remember google glass and Google cardboard? Google spent billions of dollars LiDAR scanning all of the world’s major cities and developing AR headsets to find out that everyone hated it

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u/DoctorMedical Sep 24 '22

Is Zuckerberg having a breakdown like Alexander Graham Bell? I remember watching an episode of drunk history that said pretty confidently that Bell stole the telephone patent and was racked with guilt the rest of his life and refused to have a phone in his home. Maybe Zuckerberg‘s finally mentally breaking down because he knows he stole Facebook and never came up with anything himself. He knows he’s a fraud and he is literally breaking down in front of our eyes.

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u/Here4daT Sep 24 '22

Stop trying to make meta happen. It’s not going to happen.

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u/Wafzig Sep 24 '22

Kinda happy he's going all in on this. Maybe it'll be the thing that kills off Facebook.

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u/syringistic Sep 24 '22

Dude should REALLY take notes from MySpace Tom. What's Tom doing??? Oh that's right, traveling the world with a lovely wife and taking photos of exotic places.

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u/takanakasan Sep 24 '22

Tom isn't a lizard person though

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u/helloelan Sep 24 '22

Normal human things don’t appeal to him

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u/derbyvoice71 Sep 24 '22

The final step is "decline." That's the one happening now.

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u/Jacobo5555 Sep 24 '22

Or abandonment

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u/OptimizedLion Sep 24 '22

That's right. And the three stages will be:

  1. Rollout & Hype
  2. Disillusion & Failure
  3. Scapegoating & Mass layoffs

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '22

Step 1: Everyone makes fun of it
Step 2: Meta goes bankrupt
Step 3: Everyone forgets about Zuck and his defunct evil company

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u/thebestspeler Sep 24 '22

Where is the step where he become super paranoid like a dictator and starts firing people or sending them to the gulag?

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u/Fresh-Proposal3339 Sep 24 '22

My dudes proud of his 24 bit world where passive aggressive Facebook admins stand in their rooms or office spaces waiting for some moderation to be required, let him have this W.

Second life was graphically better like, 14 years ago.

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u/sunsinstudios Sep 24 '22

I for one can’t wait to be a virtual cat for staff a meeting.

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u/Jacobo5555 Sep 24 '22

Heard he lost billions this year cuz of this. We already live in a techno world, we don’t need more fake shit

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u/frogontrombone Sep 24 '22

Make billionaires millionaires again

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u/_its_a_SWEATER_ Sep 24 '22 Silver

The taxes!

The finger thing means the taxes!

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u/selectash Sep 24 '22

Ostracize Billionaires As Millionaires Again

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u/foroncecanyounot__ Sep 24 '22

Iseewhatyoudidthere.jpg

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u/octopoddle Sep 24 '22

Let's get Tom from Myspace to make a really shitty VR world and all join that instead.

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u/duffmanhb Sep 24 '22

He didn't lose billions because of this. He is investing 10b a year into R&D and Facebook's stock went down, but that was because all tech stocks have been going down.

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u/GleeUnit Sep 24 '22

Say what you will about Zuckerberg, he’s gotten very efficient. Metaverse went from zero to mockery and irrelevance with very quickly, while Facebook remains stalled in the “actively working in the global disinterest” phase. Remarkable.

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u/cyberboy1432 Sep 24 '22

Fuck you mark, get out of my verse

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u/cutearmy Sep 24 '22

Example of what happens when no one tells you no

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u/mp111 Sep 24 '22

Dude is basically a failed salesman right now, violently smiling and saying “look how cool my toy is you guys seriously”. It’s sad

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u/Think_Marketing_8007 Sep 24 '22

Can someone cut a limb of of him and see if it regrows

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u/SuccessISthere Sep 24 '22

He pulls his tail off before every public appearance.

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u/farceur318 Sep 24 '22

But what if we end up with two of him

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u/liquidtelevizion Sep 24 '22

Why would you want two Mark Zuckerbergs?

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u/blazze_eternal Sep 24 '22

Apparently step 1 is to substantially increase the price of Oculus.

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u/apvizion Sep 24 '22

I sold my Quest and moved on long ago

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u/ItRhymesWithTable Sep 24 '22

Mark, stop trying to make meta happen! It’s not going to happen!

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u/coasterboard Sep 24 '22

I will never get tired of how stupid this man is

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u/Wendell-at2020 Sep 24 '22

Get lost robot

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u/xmach83 Sep 24 '22 edited Sep 24 '22

Anyone with enough knowledge of Metaverse, without name calling Zuck or fb, could you please explain what is Metaverse and what is the vision when they say "Meta executives have admitted it could take up to 15 years to fully realize their vision for the metaverse"? Connecting people in gaming and while workout already happens depending on the platform or device you are using. Metaverse isn't new to make that happen. As i understand it Metaverse is trying to bring what FB does, i.e. connecting people, in the realm of VR headsets. So anything you do using a VR headset can be monetized by Meta as they are collecting data just like they do while using FB.

What else am i missing?

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u/hbprof Sep 24 '22

I have the same question. And whenever I've seen it asked, no one is ever able to answer it in any concrete terms, and especially not in any terms that explain why I, a potential user will want to use it. What is the value add for the user?

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u/bicameral_mind Sep 24 '22

It's mostly a branding play. No one at Meta or Zuckerberg himself have really coherently explained what differentiates the 'Metaverse' from the internet. The internet is what affords connected experiences and already does.

Zuck's vision for Meta is adding a physical element to the nature of connected experiences. Whether through VR, where people can 'physically' interact with virtual worlds, and virtually interact with others in a 'physical' way, or AR where virtual elements are populated into the real world. The 'Metaverse' encompasses all experiences loosely connected to these concepts.

As for Meta, the company, and their vision for themselves specifically, I think in 15 years they hope to have a constellation of hardware that enables these experiences with a high degree of fidelity, and a suite of platforms and applications that facilitate them.

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u/chufi Sep 24 '22

Read snowcrash, then realize it all only seems to make sense if everyone is living in a dystopia. 🙃

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u/Amberskin Sep 24 '22

If one of the steps is meta going bankrupt, I’m all for it

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u/GMElonMusk Sep 24 '22

Here’s what we know. The metaverse is either a complete and total failure for Facebook or it’s going to be unfolding sooner than he thought.

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u/kyleadam Sep 24 '22

I have such unfathomably low interest in this. Maybe even negative interest.

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u/RogueGibbons Sep 24 '22

I have a pavlovian response to all things Zuckerberg/metaverse.

Fuck off, the metaverse is a waste of time and resources and nobody wants it or cares.

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u/relditor Sep 24 '22

I will always go out of my way to not give that piece of human garbage any money or data if possible.

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u/extod2 Sep 24 '22

Sounds like some evil plan

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u/oijsef Sep 24 '22

Is it the suppressing of civil revolution in other countries like Iran? Was that the first step or just a happy feature for Mark?

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u/Geminii27 Sep 24 '22

1) Market Metaverse
2) Get laughed at
3) Total failure

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u/7orly7 Sep 24 '22

1-labeled as shit

2-buried

3-forgotten

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u/azanzel Sep 24 '22

Stop trying to make fetch happen

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u/1982aw Sep 24 '22

Oh god. Mark. Just stop already.

Seriously. Stop. Please.

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u/neutralboomer Sep 24 '22

Why? This delusion is happily bleeding facebook (ehm, sorry, Meta(tm)) cash at a joyfully speedy rate :)

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u/staroceanx Sep 24 '22

They mentioned fitness... unless they can find a way to address sweating, the platform is not ready for majority of people to work out. Try playing a fitness game and you will realize it gets disgusting under that headset with dripping sweat and it's difficult to clean.

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u/HDauthentic Sep 24 '22

Does he mean the final step, where it fails?

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u/sharkbomb Sep 24 '22

is he saying that yhe russian troll farms he nursed on fecesbook have already gotten on board with meta? what a pox on humanity this motherfucker is.

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u/spacestationkru Sep 24 '22

From what I understand, the 'metaverse' isn't something one person is going to build, it's an environment that's going to evolve on its own and be accessible to everybody like the internet. That's going to depend on the metaverse medium being any bit as integral to daily life as the internet already is. And I'm not a programmer, but I assume that also means that metaverse developers will have to be using the same set of tools so their metaverse sites are compatible and platform agostic, so like making Fortnite compatible with Apex Legends and WoW and LoL and all the other wonderful MMOs on any device, yeah.? I'm not sure I got any of this right, but nobody seems to know what the 'Metaverse' is anyway, so who cares.

Thinking about the sheer scale of the work and the time needed by everybody to make this a thing just puts into perspective how doomed Zuckerberg's little project is. Unless anybody's interested in a Facebook MMO?

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u/rmrd26 Sep 24 '22

I think Covid proved pretty much that people cannot live without going out... don't know how this guy cannot realise that he has to look for different avenues than rubbing this on people

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u/gnudarve Sep 24 '22

I don't care. One stupid world full of idiots is enough for me, thanks.

Besides, I fucking hate meetings.

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u/CrimDude89 Sep 24 '22

meta will go bankrupt before zucc even reaches ps2-era graphics on his discount VR Chat

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u/CeeBee2001 Sep 24 '22

VRChat and RecRoom had this shit sewed up years ago. All of Zuckerberg's attempts at it have been atrocious.

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u/TwelvestepsProgram Sep 24 '22

Guy had one idea and he stole that, this metaverse thing is DOA.

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u/Filmmagician Sep 24 '22

Can’t wait for this to be a colossal flop.